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derf 09-12-2009 05:12 PM

Save Money Commuting by Motorcycle? Not So Fast!
 
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With gas prices seemingly permanently inflated and "economic malaise" looking more and more like our new reality, who wouldn't jump at the opportunity to save some dough while blasting through traffic on a two-wheeled adrenaline rush?

That's the pitch of many a motorcycle salesperson, but let's analyze it closely before getting our hands on the throttle.

Can a car commuter really save money by switching to a motorcycle?

The answer is Yes.... and No.

How Much Money Can I Save
Commuting By Motorcycle?
Describe your commute to find out.
Need to buy a bike?
Bike Type:
Age of Bike:
Need an MSF safety class?
Willing to do minor repairs?
Bike commute trips yearly:
Car commute trips yearly: 100-149
Miles to work:
Car MPG:
Gas ($/gal):
Gear needed (check all that apply):
Helmet Pants Saddlebags
Jacket Gloves Rain Suit

Each trip on a bike is certainly less expensive than on a car, but a few complications get in the way of penny-pinching nirvana.

First off, you may need to invest significant up-front costs before saving a dime.

Next, most bike commuters are unable to give up their car entirely, due to weather restrictions or luggage-carrying needs. This means that bike commuting leads to extra insurance and extra maintenance, negating some of the savings.

Finally, saving money on a motorcycle depends on a set of tradeoffs you may not be willing to make. Can you settle for the adrenaline rush of an underpowered scooter, or are you dead-set on the roar of a power-hungry beast? The answer to that question, among others, determine whether you can be one of the few that manage to save money while commuting by bike.

Check out our in-depth analysis below, and then try out our personalized calculator at right to see just how much you can save — or not.

Up-Front Costs
New bike commuters often overlook expenses associated with taking up this hobby. And, while purchasing a bike is the most significant of upfront costs, it's only just one of many.

The Bike

Obviously, the biggest up-front cost you'll face is the cost of the bike itself. And if you're committed to saving as much money as possible, this is the best place to start.

Used vs. New
Buying a used bike is one of the best ways to save money but long-term maintenance costs must be considered as well. A savvy buyer will get the best of both worlds by buying used but demanding a thorough inspection from a trusted mechanic before committing. Keep in mind, however, that a used bike is likely to need immediate repairs in order to make it road-worthy.

Power vs. Fuel Economy
Sacrificing power in the name of fuel-economy is probably the next most important factor in saving money up front. Bikes run the gamut from light, fuel-efficient models that skimp on power and comfort but enable you to recoup your investment as quickly as possible to fast, powerful gas-hogs that will make your heart race, but will probably never pay for themselves at the pump.

Scooters

At the most cost-conscious end of the spectrum, gas-sipping scooters lack some zip, but their cost and fuel economy are hard to beat. A one-year old, lightly-used Yamaha Zuma, for example, with its tiny 49cc two-stroke engine, can be found for around $1,500. Gas mileage can easily reach triple digits. Speed tops out at around 30 mph.

Sport Bikes
A more powerful sport bike — built for speed at the expense of some fuel efficiency and comfort — offers the thrill of riding a "racing motorcycle" and can still be had inexpensively. The Kawasaki Ninja 250, for example, is widely recognized as an easy-to-handle, stylish bike that provides plenty of power without breaking the bank. A recent-year model can be had for under $3,000 and can get up to 70mpg. Sport bikes will raise your insurance premium, though, so be aware of this hidden cost before settling on one.

Larger Bikes
Larger cruiser bikes satisfy the most power-hungry rider, but should not be confused with the fuel-efficient bikes above. The Honda Shadow 750, for example, is reliable and regarded as a good bike for riders new to such power, but at a road-tested 40mpg, it's not necessarily a gas-saver. A two-year old Shadow sells for around $5,000.

Saving money while commuting by motorcycle sounds too good to be true. And, in most cases, it is.
Gear

Being seduced by high-end, snazzy gear is one of the quickest ways to chew up the cost savings of commuting by motorcycle. Of course you'll need a sturdy DOT-approved helmet and a tough, breathable jacket that will provide some measure of safety as well as protection from the elements. Gloves are a must-have as well.

But, beyond that it becomes a tradeoff between safety, style, and cost. Sturdy and comfortable riding boots can limit fatigue on a long journey, but can be quite expensive. Ditto for riding pants. An all-weather riding suit will enable you to commute during cold and rainy months, but can easily cost over $1,000.

A new rider interested in saving money should be able to shop around and find a jacket, gloves and helmet for under $300.

Education

A new rider will want to take a safety course from the Motorcycle Safety Foundation (MSF). Learning effective safety techniques is the best reason to take one of these classes, but a nifty side benefit is that it enables you to lock in a significant discount on insurance. The cost of the course — up to $300 — will be more than offset by the insurance discount.

Ongoing Costs
Most new riders hope to recoup their initial investment over the long-haul as they save tons of money on gas. Mileage is better on a bike, no doubt, but it's only part of the story.

Gas


This is where the big savings could come in. A scooter that gets 100mpg can save nearly $1000 per year on gas, assuming it's used in place of a 15mpg car for a thirty mile commute 200 days per year at $3 for a gallon of gas. But what happens when you change that to a 30mpg car, 100 days per year of motorcycle commuting, a 10 mile commute and gas at $2.60 per gallon? The savings disappear entirely.

Insurance

Most motorcycle commuters are unable to rid themselves entirely of their cars. Which means that you'll need to pay for motorcycle insurance on top of your car insurance. That's a shame since motorcycle insurance is typically less expensive than car insurance.

Insurance can range from $50 to $300 per month based on a dizzying array of factors including the type of insurance purchased, the bike model, your driving record and age, and the deductible allowance.

Maintenance

Motorcycle maintenance tends to be less expensive than car maintenance. For one thing, many bikers do their own minor repairs, finding the best price on parts and saving all of the labor costs. If you're keeping your car, you'll need to maintain both, of course, but car maintenance costs can be greatly reduced by limiting mileage.

In particular, tire replacement is one of the most significant components of motorcycle maintenance. Many new riders don't realize how quickly tires will wear out on a bike versus a car. Tires can be found online at a discount, though they can be fairly tricky to install correctly.

The Cheboygan County Sheriff's Department pegs motorcycle maintenance at about 10% lower than car maintenance, but that can be further reduced by doing your own minor repairs. Figure on a savings of no more than $200 per year, depending on bike type, miles commuted and whether or not you're willing to do your own minor repairs.

The Bottom Line

Saving money while commuting by motorcycle sounds too good to be true. And, in most cases, it is. A few trial runs with our calculator will convince you that only the most cost-conscious can make it work.

Of course, the calculator doesn't figure in how much fun it is to ride to work everyday. And, for many bike commuters, that's the deciding factor.

Sixxxxer 09-12-2009 05:16 PM

If you honestly think your saving money everyday by riding your bike...We'll then thats like saying it's good lukc for it to rain on your wedding day...They only say that shit to make the bride feel better about her day being ruined...It costs me exactly the same to ride the bike as it does to drive my car to work.

I ride because I want/Love to ride not because I'm trying to save money.

Mr Lefty 09-12-2009 05:22 PM

it's a lot less expensive for me to ride to work than it was to drive my xterra...

I filled up the Xterra's 21 gal tank weekly... fill up the RR's 3.4 weekly.

the cost of insurance on the RR is $48 a month... $150 for the Xterra


now tires, gear, and maintenance is higher on the RR... but if I used it for purely commuting that'd still not be enough to put them on the same level.


but I already have my license, training, ect.... and most of all... riding in bad weather doesn't bug me...


I will say that riding will also save you money by eliminating those useless trips.. it gets old to throw all your gear on just to run to the store for some ice cream.

derf 09-12-2009 06:04 PM

I think I would save a little money, not much though

Homeslice 09-12-2009 06:30 PM

Not going to bother reading what I already know is true.....I've been saying it for years.

If you own a car as well, it's depreciating every day, not to mention the insurance you're paying on it. So the only way a bike can be cheaper is if it's your only vehicle.

Mr Lefty 09-12-2009 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 264742)
Not going to bother reading what I already know is true.....I've been saying it for years.

If you own a car as well, it's depreciating every day, not to mention the insurance you're paying on it. So the only way a bike can be cheaper is if it's your only vehicle.

depends on the vehicle...

you get yourself a beater insurance isn't much and if it's not gonna get much on gas you'd still save on the bike.

and your vehicle depreciates less for less mileage...

101lifts2 09-12-2009 06:50 PM

I'm not sure if overall the bike saves money, but the time saving is priceless. My commuter bike was 3k total and everything maintenance wse was replaced before I bought it. I pay 90 bucks a YEAR for liabilty insurance and the bike gets 50mpg each fillup doing 85-100 mph. My F-150 got 14.66 on the last 65 buck fillup. Uggg....the bike is usually 13-14 bucks after 185 miles.

Since you get to split lanes in CA, I can get to work in 10 minutes (10 miles) in the morning rush hour traffic. Not to mention I get to go to the front of every traffic light and speeding is almost accepted if you're on a bike.

If I didn't get to lane split, I would prolly just take the truck.

Cutty72 09-12-2009 06:59 PM

Another added cost is the tires. Bike tires cost half (approx) of cage tires (as there are only 2) but most last less than half the life of a car tire as well.

I know damn well I'm not saving money by riding my bike vs driving a fuel efficient car to work everyday.
BUT since I am going to have the bike anyway as a recreational toy, I AM saving money riding that vs driving a big pickup :D.

Homeslice 09-12-2009 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by eBBs15 (Post 264743)
depends on the vehicle...

you get yourself a beater insurance isn't much and if it's not gonna get much on gas you'd still save on the bike.

and your vehicle depreciates less for less mileage...

Yeah, but how many of you guys only own a cheap beater for a car?

Tyical sportbike rider after 50,000 miles:

2 chains ($200-250)
2 sprocket sets ($150)
6-7 sets of tires ($1,200-2,000)
Installation cost of the above, unless you do it yourself ($400-500)
Replacement bulbs ($50)
Rearstand ($100)
Chain lube ($20-50)
2 sparkplug changes ($100-150)
1-2 valve adjustments ($150-300 unless you do yourself)
1-2 air filters ($40-100)
2-3 helmets ($300-1,200)
2-3 jackets ($300-1,000)
2-3 gloves ($100-300)
2-3 boots ($200-1,000)
The obligatory exhaust ($400-2,000)
Other aftermarket shit people feel obligated to buy ($1,000 minimum)


Typical car owner over 50,000 miles (assuming new car):
One or two tire changes at the most ($400-1,200)
Most of today's new cars don't need new plugs for 100K miles
Not gonna need a valve adjustment either
I'm leaving out oil changes because it's not much different from a bike

Mr Lefty 09-12-2009 08:22 PM

they said motorcycle not sport bike... so if I was setting up for a commuter to save gas... I'd be looking at a cheaper motorcycle... longer lasting tires... ect


but yeah... using a sport bike as a commuter to save money is not a great idea... (I'm saving money but fuck it's still killing me)

Phenix_Rider 09-12-2009 08:31 PM

I'm definitely saving money taking the bike instead of the truck. Compare 50mpg to 12mpg and you see what I mean. Of course, the extra trips cost money, but that's not looking at pure commuting.

101lifts2 09-13-2009 01:40 AM

You can get commuter tires for cheap. Even new OEM ones for my commuter EX500 are 140 bucks total.

racedoll 09-13-2009 08:40 PM

Based only on gas prices, I figured it last year when everyone kept saying this... I would save $8 per every 300 miles by riding my bike instead of driving my car. Now that I have a new car, requiring 93 octane, riding the bike is a little more less expensive than with my old car.

I don't care. I buy the vehicles I have because I want them. I ride because I want to ride, not because it is cheaper. If that were the case I would have kept my 250 that got 70mpg on 89 octane.

Particle Man 09-13-2009 09:42 PM

saving my sanity = priceless

Rangerscott 09-14-2009 01:01 AM

Was on my TX forum and apparently a new law passed or is going to pass about ALL new riders getting their M HAVE TO take a MSF course before taking the computer test.

So new riders in Texas can add that to the total.

marko138 09-14-2009 04:04 PM

Motorcycle = money.

fnfalman 09-14-2009 05:07 PM

The only way a motorcycle or a scooter could be a cost saver is that it's the only mode of transportation. Even then, it wouldn't save shit if you were to buy a fancy motorcycle instead of a cheap runabout.

HurricaneHeather 09-14-2009 06:16 PM

When we moved to TX we had one car between the two of us, so we needed a second vehicle.

We bought an $1800 bike and spent about another $500 on gear. We saved quite a bit of money by not buying a car. Especially considering a $1800 car would more than likely break down once or twice a day. :lol:

It worked damn well for us for the time. :shrug:

njchopper87 09-14-2009 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by HurricaneHeather (Post 265491)
When we moved to TX we had one car between the two of us, so we needed a second vehicle.

We bought an $1800 bike and spent about another $500 on gear. We saved quite a bit of money by not buying a car. Especially considering a $1800 car would more than likely break down once or twice a day. :lol:

It worked damn well for us for the time. :shrug:

That's part of the reason I got a bike.. well.. besides just wanting one. I could either get a pos car (we're talking bare minimum 100,000 miles and work needed) that would make daily commute to and from class doable, or I could get a barely used bike (in this case 6,000 miles and minor maint.) for the same price that would make interstate travel more than doable.

It was a fairly easy decision, and I saved big time.

OneSickPsycho 09-14-2009 10:10 PM

Too many factors to consider...

Kerry_129 09-15-2009 12:29 AM

Yep - biggest variable is type of bike/tires. A sportbike? Not so much.

If I were commuting, I'd look hard at a DL650 V-Strom. Ugly as sin, but: 50mpg, relatively cheap tires which can go 10~15k, low-maintenance bomb-proof motor/driveline, and it's capable of hauling ass both off-road & on (had a real eye-opening L-Day weekend riding with a guy & his wife on one :?: ). Damn skippy a ride like that could be a money-saver over an average-mileage car/truck, and be much more than just a 'commuter'.


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