The Canadian National Series is Hooped
 

The dates have been released. There are 7 'races.' Six of these 'races' take place during double-header weekends. That's FOUR weekends' worth of national level racing. Of those, one will be at Ontario and the traditional season ender will be in Nova Scotia, not Ontario (at what I generally refer to as my home track) as it has been for many years. In fact there will be no national races at my usual stomping grounds.

On top of that, the series will be over on the first weekend in August. you folks may see more of me down there, this season, than you ever wanted to.

F U too Colon.:overkill:

http://www.cdnsuperbike.com/index.ph...021&Itemid=136

Crappy attendance?

Lost Suzuki and Yamaha as sponsors, so they're scaling back in order to survive.

they dont race at calbogie?

Tom

They've started the season at 'Bogie the last two years, but not this coming year. This year they'll only be running at Mirabel (Montreal, PQ), Race City (Calgary, AB - still a bit iffy), Mosport (Bowmanville, ON), and Atlantic Motorsports Park (Shubenacadie, NS).

Well, now they can try to survive without my dollars too.

Maybe I will just attend the RACE regionals instead at shannonville.

RACE will be running a 250 Ninja series for kids, where PCSB has CBR125s. They'll be running an endurance race in August. I'm there virtually every round.

Update: Now if you race a R1 or any 2010 model of Yamaha, you can't do it in the Canadian national series.

Even as a privateer?

Link?

Yup, doesn't matter. You can run your 2009- R6 in 2010, but your R1 of ANY year is out in Superbike.

http://www.cdnsuperbike.com/index.ph...023&Itemid=136

I have a bunch of buddies that race in that. Unfortunately I rarely make it out (still 3 hours away for me) but plan to this year.

Sad but unfortunately Canada just doesn't have the support. :(

Make it out this season and I'll give you a 11"x14" print of that shot I won pic of the month with here ;)

Deal! I'll schedule a weekend as pit bitch with Timmy around my own track days and side business ventures. Going to be a busy summer!

'Timmy' who? Toldnes?

You got it! You know him?

Wow.

I hope Yamaha tells them to go fuck themselves.

Yamaha already did, by bowing out of national series support this season. This is the 'return fire.'

Funny thing is that it will affect privateers more than Yamaha themselves.

BTW, this is the same guy that fucked up AMA racing for you guys.(AMA's director of competition)

Nope, don't know him. I know that he won the last Novice Open race this year though. OK, I had to look it up :lol:

http://www.morallyambiguous.net/mult...0-P9261602.JPG

Given some of the other people involved, I'm not really willing to lay the whole thing at Colin's feet.

I mean in the future.

Like karl said, this will hurt racers more than it will the factory.

I hope the sanctioning body backs away from their "tough guy" stance due to pressue from the field and not due to Yamah caving in.

The discussion about requesting a change has been running on the local racing board for a few days now, and some people are talking about petitions, letters, etc..Truth is that only 6 Yahamas were on the track in Superbike last year; two in the top 10 and one of the others was a R6. Half the field were on Suzuki, who have also apparently withdrawn support. I have my doubts that Suzuki will get the same treatment that Yamaha did.

That's him! I've known him for a number of years, rode down to the Gap with him last year too!

Well that sucks... So what are your personal racing plans for 2010?

Well I know you're not asking me but I'm answering anyways. :lmao:

I plan on running one endurance race in a regional club type series and possibly a "femmes" race at the end of next year to get me into the feel of it.

Nice, how long is the endurance race?

I might be doing the 8 Hours of Daytona in October, assuming it's on the calendar & everything falls into place.

This series runs 2 endurance race weekends. The race itself is with 2 riders and is 3 hours in length and a le mons start (or is it lemans? :scratch:). I've never raced before so I thought it'd be an interesting way to jump in feet first!

Funny thing is that the SOAR Series endurance races were successful enough that the RACE Series is running one this year too.

Canada has motorcycle racing orgs...who woudda thought. May-Aug riding season huh.

Just have the government run it...then you won't have to worry about an underfunded org. LoL

Just have to bring that crap into a racing discussion, huh?

The regional racing season runs from April through the end of September. Any other ways you want to make yourself look stupid?

I think his complete lack of knowledge of US geography takes care of that. :whistle:

February - December here.

Commie.

Alaska too?

Commie right back at you.

Forget Alaska. What about Minnesota?

I haven't looked at the new schedule but I'm fairly certain that Alaska is not a part of our South East regional series.

Double Commie no backsies.

Well double dumbass on you too. Now if you'll excuse me, my convalescing buddy Fidel and myself are jetting down to New Zealand to watch the races.

http://www.cdnsuperbike.com/index.ph...021&Itemid=136

May-Aug according to the only link in this thread with dates.

What are you talking about? The thread was about Canadian National Superbike, not U.S.

I don't know why I'm bothering to waste my time on you, but...

... of course you didn't bother to look up the names of the other two series that were named in the thread. You know, the ones you were commenting on.


S.O.A.R.

ROUND ONE May 7-9
ROUND TWO June 11-13 - Reverse Direction w/Endurance
ROUND THREE July 9-11 - Endurance
ROUND FOUR August 6-8 - Reverse Direction
ROUND FIVE September 10-12 - Endurance
ROUND SIX October 15-17 - Endurance

R.A.C.E.

2010 RACE Schools
April 16, 2010
April 30, 2010

2010 RACE Test Days
April 17, 2010 SMP Fabi Track
April 18, 2010 SMP Nelson Track

Round #1 April 30, May 1 & 2, 2010
Round #2 May 14, 15 & 16, 2010
VRRA (Vintage Road Racing Festival) June 4, 5 & 6, 2010
Round #3 June 18, 19 & 20, 2010
Round #4 July 16, 17 & 18, 2010
ENDURANCE RACE August 28, 2010
Round #5 September 3, 4 & 5, 2010
Round #6 September 24, 25 & 26

To be fair, the thread is titled NATIONAL series.

The link was regarding the NATIONAL series.

The comment about manufacturers pulling out (under funding, his comment) was regarding the NATIONAL series.

3.5 pages in, Kel piped up about the endurance racing and you guys switched topics.

I know you like to beat on 101, it doesn't mean he is always wrong.

I wouldn't have beaten up on him at all except that he decided to drag his political feelings into a racing thread and referred to "racing orgs" (plural), both of which I felt made him fair game.

No you do it all the time regardless of whatever I say, then you back peddle when called out.

I'll just learn to say out of your threads from now on. That should resolve the issue.

Between you, Avatard and JC this site just isn't worth all the shit anymore.

Hi everybody.... I like racing..... and winter sucks on motorcycle message boards. Welcome to winter.

Great. So now Kawasaki Canada has dropped the in-house team and are farming it out. Support will drop from two riders, running in both Sportbike and Superbike, down to just one rider in Superbike.

The RACE series will be the only interesting series this year.
Too bad they won't come to Bogie.

Sadly, its the beginning of the end of our national series. Its horrible to say, but probably true.

Karl, you aren't much further from Shannonville than I am and you would be going through better scenery. In fact it would likely take you less time to get there than it does me, in most cases. It can take me more than an hour just to get across Toronto.

The national series has failed before so if it does now, it won't be a first. That doesn't make it any less sad though.

I know Shannonville is not far, but bogie is a nice track and has nicer surrounding roads and scenery.

True, but you aren't allowed to see what's going on for perhaps 3/4 of it during an event, unless you're someone like me who has a press pass. Once they bulldoze some trails into the back end it'll be a pretty good spectator track, but that hasn't been done yet. The best spot to see action is a ridge above 12b, from where you can see from corners 11 through 15. There are a couple of flat areas above corner 17 that give a pretty good view, but last year the officials were waving people off of one of them.

At Shannonville you can see everything but about 2 corners, while just sitting in the stands. It's a toss-up; do you want to see all the action, or do you want a more interesting track?

And now Szoke is out of a job?! Is that they way that you treat a guy who took your marque to the #1 plate in both premier classes?!!

FOUR TIMES IN A ROW!!

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/...?article=39145

Are we back to talking about the National series again? redflip


It sucks to hear that things have gotten so bleak up there.

My hope is that once DMG finishes ruining racing down here, there will be a resurgence of professional racing in BOTH countries.

Yes we are, you fucker redflip

I think I've said before that the guy behind our national series is also working with DMG. It's become a national sport up here to lay all blame squarely at his feet but with things coming apart so completely, on both sides of the border, it's more than I think any one man can be credited with. There has to be more going on here, and I don't think that the economy can be blamed for it either.

So basicly, its the privateer racing league this year?

Sure seems that way. If Szoke wants to extend his record of consecutive Superbike wins, and he seemed to have no reason to expect that he wouldn't do so this season, then it's either going to be with another manufacturer or a solo effort. BMW seems to be the only factory team this season, with both rides already spoken for (Martin and Ferreira)

Szoke should have been picked up by a US team years ago. Finishing top 10 on a Harley in Superbike? The dude is way more talented than half the AMA field. On a good bike, he could be a contender.

Unfortunately he has border issues (that shan't be discussed), so couldn't reliably get down there. Then there's McCormick, who has proven himself up here and is getting his chance to go big down south..... in a dead series. This kid could be the next Duhamel, making Canadians care about motorcycle racing again, but he's rising at the wrong time.

Well it looks like Szoke was fired, even thought he offered to ride for free this year.
http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/...?article=39145
and the rebuttal
http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/...?article=39155

I hope he jumps on a GSXR or CBR and buries Kawasaki this year.

What Szoke said is that he didn't offer to do it for nothing, he was told that was the deal and wanted to do the supersport series on his own dime, so that he could defend his title. I'm hearing that his contract was up for renewal this season and Welsh was signed until the end of the 2010 season anyway. Welsh is a good kid and a good rider (thought that my pictures were too expensive though :p). He did better than I thought he could last season, after making a name by running his own racing effort on a shoe-string budget out of the back of a trailer before that, but he still isn't the guy who won 4 Superbike and Supersport titles in a row.

Finally good news!!!!!!

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2010/Feb/100202colin.htm

They might be pushing him out!

One a related note, this is his letter to a privateer who races an R1.

Matt:

Thank you for your two letters sent during December relating to Yamaha’s participation in the 2010 Parts Canada Superbike Championship and your racing plans. I understand that you are upset about these recent events, and I cannot provide any assurances that the YZF-R1 will be eligible for Pro competition in the 2010 Parts Canada Series.

Your second letter suggests that these issues are somehow personal for me. I can assure you that this is not the case; in much the same way that Yamaha’s withdrawal for 2010 is not a personal matter either.

I represent a number of companies that fund the series, both in terms of overall organization, event structure and television coverage of the Canadian national road racing tour. Our future plans and directions are set during meetings of a management group made up of these companies’ representatives, and I then explain the plans publicly – these decisions are not solely by me, nor are they arrived at in a casual manner.

When you question my concerns regarding privateer competitors, I would like to make it clear that I was referring to 600cc class racers – we have far more competitors using R6 equipment than R1, and these existing 600cc riders were not affected by this recent decision regarding the R1 and Superbike Feature class.

I have spoken at length to several individuals on you summary sheet, so you might want to chat with them or call me directly. I will be sure to show both your letters to the parties involved with reaching the Yamaha R1-related ruling.

If there is any change in the policy for 2010, we will announce this update via the website, as per usual.

Colin Fraser

Link: http://www.cherrypickerracing.com/fo...get=last#89102

Actually I post on that board and my name was one of those on Matt's letter to Colin :lol:

So Colin already aleviated your fears then? :lol:

My fears will be alleviated if-and-when we get back to a 7 weekend, 8 race season :(