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Well I did a little asphalt surfing this morning...
Yup yup.... went down again this morning. I don't know what's going on here.... I go 177k miles with virtually no incidents, then now all of a sudden I hit the pavement twice within 4 months... WTF?? Am I getting old and senile or something?? LOL
The good news: I'm perfectly fine... not even so much as a scratch or bruise on me, almost like it never even happened. So no worries there The bad news: As of right now, the bike is dead.... as in dead dead, physically incapable of running. I'm gonna have to get creative in bringing her back to life, but I fully intend to do so So.... I was on my way into work this morning. It was 7:30 am and I was less than 2 miles away from being at work. After I got off of I-40 I headed north for a short ways and you get to a fork in the road, where you can either go straight-ish or veer off to the left. I always take the road that veers off to the left, and I had a green arrow so I stayed in the righthand of the 2 left turn lanes and began the turn. I wasn't going fast.... it's a real large wide intersection (5 way intersection) and I was doing probably 25-30 mph (which is actually pretty slow for this gentle of a curve) and soon as I began the turn the whole bike just went ZING right out from under me like nothing. I was barely even leaned at all, and wasn't even in the middle of the curve yet... WTF?? Bike went down on the left side and slid wheels first towards the curb and grass on that side of the road, and I slid behind it. I popped my head up and looked at the bike as it was sliding just in time to see it slam into the curb and flip over onto the right side, luckily landing in some soft grass. I got right up off the ground I think before I even came to a stop, lol.... walked over to the bike as I was taking my (brand new 2 day old) helmet off and screaming a few 4 letter words. I really had no idea what caused me to go down at the time.... I didn't see it going into the turn cuz the glare from the sun made it kinda hard to see such things, but after I was able to look at it a little closer from the other angle, sure enough a big oil slick slippery spot right in the middle of the intersection.... my freakin luck, heh An older guy in the Mountain Mobility van sitting at the red light got out and asked me if I was OK and if I needed him to call anybody for me. I thanked him for the offer and told him I was A-OK, so he went on his way. Right after that as I'm pondering about WTF I'm gonna do now since it obviously wasn't rideable, I hear "hey Jared, you alright?". It was one of my co-workers from the body shop at our dealer... he was about a half dozen cars behind me, and he didn't see me wreck, but as he was going through the intersection he saw me getting up out of the street and pulled into the gas station real quick when he recognized it as being me. Luckily he drives a pickup truck, so we lifted it up into his truck and headed into work. Thank god he was there cuz I really don't know who I would have called other than a wrecker, and they'll bend you over big time!! Plus I didn't want to wait around for the popo to show up either.... that's always a hassle, and I wouldn't doubt somebody at that intersection called. I just wanted to get out of there quick as possible, and since my buddy was already right there, from the time I went down to the time we drove out was prob 5 mins tops. He's ridden bikes all his life and has had a few similar situations, so he already knew I probably didn't want to hang around for too long and didn't BS around, hahah. He gave me a ride home after work too... very nice people I work with Anyways, here's pics... This morning in the truck right after it happened... bike was covered in motor oil. After it hit the curb and busted the stator open, it flipped and flung oil everywhere http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15...s/8d1f7121.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15...s/eafd5308.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15...s/DSC01578.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15...s/DSC01559.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15...s/DSC01560.jpg Right side landed in the soft grass, so it really didn't get much of any damage other than a little dirty http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15...s/DSC01561.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15...s/DSC01562.jpg Swingarm scratched pretty good http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15...s/DSC01564.jpg Shift lever bent http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15...s/DSC01565.jpg Now here's the baaaad part.... when it slid into the curb, the stator took a hard direct hit http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15...s/DSC01566.jpg That silver ring around the stator coil is the flywheel..... it's attached to the end of the crankshaft and spins around the stator coil (well, used to). This is the original 177k mile stator too... I was kinda curious as to how long it would last, now I'll never know :-( http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15...s/DSC01567.jpg This is even worse... a chunk missing out of the engine case at the bottom part... not cool!! http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15...s/DSC01570.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15...s/DSC01573.jpg We stopped by where it happened on the way home after work cuz I wanted to try and find the chunk of the engine case. I found lots of broken metal http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15...s/DSC01574.jpg But I did find my chunk of engine case that I was looking for! We have an aluminum TIG welder at work and the guy that picked me up today is a welder, so he said he should be able to get her all fixed up there. I sure hope it works! http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15...s/DSC01576.jpg Uh oh.... I know where and why the oil is dripping, but the antifreeze.... that I really don't know http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15...s/DSC01580.jpg That's about it..... I'm really bummed about it, but definitely glad I was not hurt at all, thank god. My head never hit the ground so I didn't even get a scratch on my brand new helmet (Scorpion EXO-1000 RPM) that I had just gotten 2 days prior. Oh well at least it's winter time and getting cold, so not riding for a little bit won't be quite as painful as if it were beautiful outside, lol. I went ahead and filed a claim with my insurance since I already know it's gonna be well over my $500 deductible, so hopefully I'll hear back from them tomorrow. I know they'll total it with the broken engine case and all, but if I can get something out of it and still keep the bike then I might as well. Let the rebuild begin! |
That fucking SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKS.
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Ho-ly shit. Glad you're uninjured!! You did a helluva job on the bike. Hopefully they'll total it out but have a cheap buy-back so you can start the Frankenbike project :D
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Suck! Sorry man!
I would recommend you give the flywheel and crank a good look-see. I had similar damage to an FZR600 I had probably 15 years ago and I ended up tweaking the crank. I'd hate to see you put a bunch of money into repairing it only to find out the motor needs to be gone into after the fact. |
Damn man, glad you are ok. That engine case took a licking.
It might be worth it to just get a used motor. |
that is heartbreaking. glad to hear you are alright.
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damn dude. sorry to hear that.
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wow dude, that fucking SCUKS. but hey, the good side is at least you've A. gotten MORE than your moneys worth from the bike, B, gotten no injuries, and C. got good coworkers and luck on your side.
from the looks of it though, its fixable, and you're likely gonna be riding it again. |
oh maaaaaaaaaaan - ouch
you're gonna be sore in the morning. Have the ibuprofen handy agree with Trip: you may want to just look for another motor and replace the broken bits with unbroken parts rather than risk welding pieces. If it was running when the oil went all over the place there may be more damage that you can't see... glad you were able to walk away from that dude |
Cross posting from NCS!
Glad you're alright! My 929 stator cover came apart like that in a low-side. Is the aluminum block behind still in-tact? Looks like it could be broken at the bottom. Mine broke there, making it impossible to match a new stator cover to it. For that reason alone, I had to part mine out. You got 110k more out of yours than I did, though. :lol: I thought I was doing good with my 7 year old 929 with 69,8xx miles on it! |
Glad you're ok, sucks about the bike man :(
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Damn Jared. Glad to hear you are OK.
Make sure you go through that bike with a fine tooth comb. Like someone else said, hate to see you dump a bunch a money into it when more might be wrong. |
Good News: You're not hurt
Bad News: Bike looks like absolute shit. They will total it out for sure... |
Yeh I'm with the others that said replace the engine. Something very similar happened to a buddy of mine, where the stator took a direct hit and he fixed the bike. After spending a shitload of his own money to fix it the motor he was able to make it out of his neighborhood before the motor blew itself to pieces. Turns out the crank seperated 2 inches into the motor. He said after a few miles the bike started to get a heavy vibration under load so he started to take it easy and head home and boom. Locked up the rear wheel and took him for a ride.
You need to buy your suit back from my brother cuz he stole your good luck |
Fuck.. sorry man. Glad you're all right, though. Oil slicks are definitely not cool..
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Damn man. Terrible. I've hit a curb...though my Zuk made out a little better. Take it easy for a day or two. Good luck.
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glad you are okay
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That sucks Bro! It's a tough call and I know you don't want to hear this but...I think it's time for a new bike. Even if the motor can be repaired/replaced for a reasonable amount, the frank truth is the bike isn't worth it. Besides, your frame/sub frame could be slightly tweaked. Forks could be slightly tweaked. Etc. Do you really want to pump thousands of dollars into a bike that's only work a couple grand? I'd take the money and find a really good deal on a CBR600RR and call it good. I've been both ways on this deal. I had '97 YZF1000R that I bought back after the deer and it was a POS after wards. I gave up my '01 GSXR1000 and I wish that I had kept it...although, it turned out that the frame was tweaked. Considering the age/mileage on the bike and the hit that the motor took...I'd go shopping. I may be wrong but I could have sworn that I've seen '07/'08 CBRs for about $8000 otd.
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Im with Tigger. The risks involved are not worth fixing that bike. She's been good to you. Time to put her to bed.
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Sorry about you wreck. Glad you weren't injured. You can find F4i's all day long for cheap. My buddy just sold his for $3500. With the amount of miles you put on, the RR might be a bit of a torture rack.
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I have the same exact bike, which will be up for sale soon... |
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Oh and while you're doing figure corrections, allow me to help you with your geography...we're in North Carolina. Why exactly would he be interested in a Ca spec bike? |
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A new motor is the easiest fix but that would totally ruin the "cool factor" of this bike. Fix it and get her back on the road, as close to original as possible. Sorry to hear about the wreck, Jared. |
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Well guys, I've got some bad news.... it looks like my bike has taken her last breath at 177,428 miles :no::cry:
I went out and looked at it some more... took the stator out and the rest of the stator cover off so I could see a little better, and the damage is way worse than originally thought. It appears the impact either bent or pushed the crankshaft in... the starter gear is pushed back against the case and a few of the teeth are pushed up against another part of the case. Basically, engine is completely locked up. I tried to turn it and it won't budge. What's even worse, looking behind the flywheel/starter gear the case is also cracked, and the crack goes straight up the case right on the back of #4 cylinder, almost all the way up to the head. One of the mounting tabs is also cracked. So yea... looks like my motor is done for good I'm literally teary eyed as I'm typing this... I know my obvious attachment to my bike probably seems rather silly to most people, and it very well may be... I'm not arguing that at all. But people gotta understand where I'm coming from too.... this bike and I have been through everything and been everywhere together. It was my first bike ever, I learned how to ride on this bike, and it began my obsession with riding. It's more than just the bike itself though... after I began racking up a good number of miles, I had a goal... I wanted to see at least 200k miles on a sportbike, or at least see how long the engine would truly last when well cared for, since it seemed nobody actually knew the answer as nobody else ever racks up that kinda mileage on a sportbike. After I started doing roadtrips I had another goal... for this bike to take me through all 48 states before it died. I made it through 19 states. After 5 years of working towards my goal, I was THAT close, and then bam, down the drain it goes just like that... all because of an oil patch and a friggin curb. I know it's stupid, but I'm just one of those people that has 'everything' planned out waaaay ahead of time, and when something takes a sudden detour and doesn't go as planned, it really throws me for a loop Anyways, enough of my emotional babbling. I'm just really bummed that my bike had to end this way. I would have felt much better if it had thrown a rod or something like that, not get taken out by a damn curb while it was still running flawless. I know I'll feel better once I get another bike, it just sucks right now. Time to start looking for a new one I guess, but I'm still keeping this one. Who knows, it may just make a re-appearance sometime down the road! I really don't know what I'm gonna do though as far as getting another.... this wasn't something I was really ready to deal with right now, so I didn't have much $$ saved up. My credit is pretty much shot after being out of work for almost a year and getting behind on a bunch of stuff, so financing is likely out of the question too. Guess I'll just have to see what I get from the ins and go from there... we'll see! So yea.... RIP, my bike |
Hey, man, I can completely understand...but, at least you didn't get taken out with your bike.
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Will you be able to part it out or will ins come take it away? When you get the ins money, may be time to give some thought into putting money into the bank vs getting another bike right away (if $$$ is still an issue). At the very least, plenty of cheap used bikes out there. |
Do you have full coverage?
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Yeah barring major snow I'm sure thirdgen will be up for any mayden voyage road trip on his next bike.
The cbr value is the suckage. The bike was "worth" a great deal more than $3500. I understand its real world value. But its a perfect example of the item insured being worth more to the owner than what some paper value says it is. RIP the highest milage sportbike I've ever known! Your true potential never known. Your exsistance always missed. May ur heavonly roads always be fresh concrete with an endless supply of petro so you never have to stop. May you reach those magestic mountain tops through those twisty mountain roads that go forever into the worlds most gorgous backdrops. * * I haven't slept in a day, this was done on my blackberry, and who wants me to write their eulogy? :lol: |
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glad yur ok.
but ..... sad to see, like Gas said, the highest mileage sportbike i know of go down with a lot more left in her. |
Sorry to see your mishap, and I can totally understand the sentimental attachment. I was sorry to see my old F3 (with a mere 35k) become a 'total' unexpectedly after my brother wrecked it for me and then some douche helped himself to the bodywork while it was sitting @ the dealer getting an estimate. But that led me directly to my trusty old VFR, which has been my favorite bike for the past decade. Like others said - bikes can be replaced, but you can't & it's great that the bike paid the price instead of your carcass! :)
Good luck bike-hunting. One GREAT place to keep an eye on is the ADVRider.com flea-market. Not lots of sportbikes show up on there, but some, and very often they are smokin' deals! :dthumb: |
it sucks to hear that man. I know you were really attached to that bike like a family member. I wish you could have reached both of your major goals man. maybe your next bike will reach those goals and then some.
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So sorry to hear about that!
But glad to hear you're ok. |
Jared, Was92v on this forum is selling his F4I you can check with him if interested.
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outta try writing honda. they might cut you a deal on a new one. never know. no one rides em like that
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Glad you are okay.
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Well... just a lil update on this
Insurance company came out this past Thursday and looked at the bike, they said it would prob be a few days and I'd be getting a call from the claims office. So hopefully I hear something from them this week, and can get a check and really get going with the rebuild. I finally got the flywheel off today... I was hoping for the best, but was sadly disappointed. Crankshaft is indeed bent pretty good at the end... enough that I not only can easily see it's bent just by looking at it, but it's also still keeping the engine from turning. I've got a buddy who's boss does machine work, and said he should be able to straighten out the crank without any probs, so hopefully he's right! If not, then I guess another crankshaft is the next plan. Also gonna see just how bad the damage is when I split the cases open. If the inside of the case is pretty tore up, I may end up looking for a good used engine. We'll see though.... |
Since the crank is tweaked, don't forget about the bearings inside the motor that took a hit also. You may need to replace them as well.
Sounds like you would be better off looking for a used motor, but I totally understand the hard-headedness of *Dammit, I'm going to make this work!* LOL Good luck with it! |
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I've already said my piece.
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bent crank shoulnt be fixed, you need a new motor. I straight up dont trust repaired crankshafts.
chances are very good that it did a LOT of other damage inside the engine you've not even found yet, and wont until you split th cases. basically, you could buy another engine, and not worry, repair yours, never know if/when it might die/fail, or replace the bike. I understand your attachment emotionally, but there comes a point where you gotta let go, ya know? |
Yup - must agree with these guys saying 'ditch the motor due to bent crank'. I can understand the attachment & not wanting to in principal, but with the ready availability of good cheap turn-key motors via ebay & whatnot - it would be silly to waste that kind of money/time trying to resurrect yours w/ a bent crank. Especially since potentially your life could be put in jeopardy by a motor seizing on the street.
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Besides man, I'm telling you. You do not know what else may be wrong with that bike. Welds that are micro cracked, tweaked forks, etc. It's really not worth while to spend #k+ to repair a bike that is worth $3k. I'm sorry Jared but I'd really like to see you on a different bike.
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I could see salvaging the bike by dropping in a new motor, and perhaps having the frame/forks checked by GMD (or at least checking yourself carefully using the 'string' method). But messing with repairing the motor just doesn't make a whole lotta sense, since a replacement crank/bearings alone probably costs more than a perfectly good used motor.
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I don't know, jared is a great guy and I'd hate to see him make the same mistake, I've made in the past... not to mention that the bike would be worthless if he ever did want to sell it or trade it in. Oh and his insurance company may tell him to take a hike if there is another incident. It's a tough call and I understand where he is coming from, believe me, I just know that there are some crazy deals on newer used bikes and even some new bikes are going cheap. |
Werd, any time I've seen somebody straighten a shaft, it involved a hammer and dial gauge.
That's not to say it won't work. I just wouldn't trust it. |
You ever thought about contacting Honda about how many miles you put on this bike and had to do minimal repairs? I'm sure they'd like to hear it.
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I hate to say it, but any bike with 177k miles is worthless. Would you buy it? I sure as hell wouldn't, esspecialy since I can buy a bike with a fraction of the miles for any price he would try to sell it. Granted it looks great, like it has been taken care of, but that is a shit load of miles. What could it really be worth as is before the crash? $1000? $1500? I just don't see it being worth that much |
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I'm sorry but I think Tigger and I are on the same page here. I totally understand the attachment as I said before. But its simply not worth it. I would like to see Jared on a VFR or some sport tour. OMG could you guys imagine the miles he would put on!! WOW!!
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You can grab very clean 5th-gen VFRs for $3~4.5 grand all day long still.... gear driven cams, sounds sweet, capable, and comfy all day long.... advrider/fleamarket/bikes/.... :wink:
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Sorry to hear the news Jared. I'm sure you will figure something out.
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Blackbird. The carb ones go for $3K around here, with the FI ones around $4K. Still a CBR, but smoother, faster and way more comfortable.
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Or you could just buy my F4i and keep on trucking...
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Well just a quick update...
I (finally) made some good progress today! Beginning http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15...s/09f433d8.jpg Then... http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15...s/d23c5eec.jpg Rafters and ratchet straps to the rescue http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15...s/ec60559e.jpg Oh and milk crates too http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15...s/4e3b4d6c.jpg Success! http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15...s/04977c8b.jpg She's dirrrrty http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15...s/1ccd3ff4.jpg Poor thing :( http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15...s/92bb161b.jpg But, this was the biggest part of the job that I needed to get done, so it definitely won't be long now! Gonna take it down to my buddies in Greenville, SC next weekend and he'll be able to tell me if it's salvageable or not, and we'll go from there. Either way, I should be back on the road again here soon! |
Normally I would be very impressed... but knowing that your a mechanic... I'll just give you a good "atta boy".
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Good start Jared. I hope you get good news from your friend.. fingers crossed for you.
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If the engine is a no go, but you want to keep the frame then I recommend going ahead and replacing anything rubber.
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Maybe a tiny patch of ice was on the road?
I came back one night to my joint and took the corner nice & easy. Suddenly the bike slipped out under me. Luckily I gunned the throttle a but and bounced my left leg on the ground (not a good thing to do with a near 600-lbs bike) and kept it up. I stopped, traced back and found just a cunt's hair worth of fucking ice right where I hit it. |
Well guys.... I haven't really kept anyone up to date on exactly what I've been up to lately. I don't want to spill the beans just yet (that'll be posted later), but lets just say I've just completed some MAJOR surgery on my bike. It won't be long now, she should be back on the road in the next couple of days!
As for me.... I'm quite possibly the happiest guy alive after what you see in this video. I know it doesn't seem like much, but after I post up my massive rebuild thread with pictures, it'll all make perfect sense http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ovbu0W2hJ6o |
Sounds like she has another 2 and a half billion miles left in her
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great!
you got her heart pumping agian. |
Good job Jared!
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I thought that motor was toast with the cracked cases and bent crank |
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Just amazing! Love the passion....
Can't wait to see the pics. :rockwoot: |
Good shit man. Lookin forward to the pics and what not.
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I can't wait to hear the rest of the story.
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Can't wait to watch video when at home.
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I know this is probably a stupid question...But is the Bike in gear?
The speedo was reading MPH Butit looked like the Neutral light was on...Is that a honda thing or am I just crazy |
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