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shmike 01-08-2010 10:56 AM

SIDI Boot help, QUICK!
 
I am ordering new boots today and can't decide.

SIDI Vortice's, worth the extra money?

I have Vertigo's currently but they need to be replaced.

I like the Vortice's but they are A LOT more money.

Any input you have regarding your experiences is appreciated.

marko138 01-08-2010 10:59 AM

Don't know if you've seen this but NewEnough has a few Vortice's on closeout:

http://www.newenough.com/closeouts/b...cle_boots.html

shmike 01-08-2010 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by marko138 (Post 316340)
Don't know if you've seen this but NewEnough has a few Vortice's on closeout:

http://www.newenough.com/closeouts/b...cle_boots.html


I didn't know that, Thanks!

Still, Motonation has the white Vertigos for $173.

Still a $156 difference....

Sean 01-08-2010 11:24 AM

Is the Vortice the newer version of the Vertigo Corsa? I have the Vertigo Corsa, and from what I can tell it's the same damn thing as the regular Corsa but with an extra strap over the top of the foot which is a PITA to fasten. I'd rather NOT have that thing. It's fiddly and annoying and of doubtful benefit.

shmike 01-08-2010 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Sean (Post 316356)
Is the Vortice the newer version of the Vertigo Corsa? I have the Vertigo Corsa, and from what I can tell it's the same damn thing as the regular Corsa but with an extra strap over the top of the foot which is a PITA to fasten. I'd rather NOT have that thing. It's fiddly and annoying and of doubtful benefit.

I think they are similar.

I'm not too sure about the older names.

The current Vertigos which are almost identical to my old boots doesn't have the extra ankle support / hinge thingie, nor do they have any of the straps.

Vertigo:
http://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/prod...rtigo_blue.jpg

Vortice:
http://www.elmers.co.uk/boots/vortice.jpg

Sean 01-08-2010 11:39 AM

From what I read / hear from experienced dirt riders, no hinge = better. If there's a hinge, it's solid in other directions, so lateral force is all concentrated on the knee in a fall. If there's no hinge, there's slight to moderate movement allowed in all directions. In dirt, hinge = knee stress in a fall.

That being said I've never crashed a street bike (knock on wood!) so I have no idea of the physics of it.

azoomm 01-08-2010 12:03 PM

I have them.

I just got them.

Holy SHIT they are worth every penny. I mean, Wow. Yes. Go with the Vortice.

shmike 01-08-2010 12:15 PM

Ordered the Vortices.

I really wanted to go with white but went with black instead.

azoomm 01-08-2010 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by shmike (Post 316397)
Ordered the Vortices.

I really wanted to go with white but went with black instead.

haha, I did the same thing. I just couldn't bring myself to go with white. :lol:

I will warn you, they're a bit complicated and take some getting used to. The straps... do not click the button to loosen the strap while the crank piece is flipped up ready to turn - you'll break the little plastic strap. Now, on the Vortice those pieces can be replaced - it's still a pain though.

Speedracer42 01-08-2010 12:42 PM

The Vertigo is a great boot and in the current version is much more like the slightly older race boot. I raced in those for a couple years and loved them. I don't think the Vortice is worth that much extra money as an everyday boot

karl_1052 01-08-2010 12:45 PM

haha, Boots to the coot

Trip 01-08-2010 01:56 PM

Find me some cheap Sidi On Roads.

shmike 01-08-2010 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Trip (Post 316456)
Find me some cheap Sidi On Roads.

I'll keep my eyes open.

fasternyou929 01-08-2010 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean (Post 316363)
From what I read / hear from experienced dirt riders, no hinge = better. If there's a hinge, it's solid in other directions, so lateral force is all concentrated on the knee in a fall. If there's no hinge, there's slight to moderate movement allowed in all directions. In dirt, hinge = knee stress in a fall.

That being said I've never crashed a street bike (knock on wood!) so I have no idea of the physics of it.

It's solid in the left-to-right direction so your ankle can't twist. I don't see how that can possibly be viewed as a bad thing. Unless I'm really reading this wrong, I don't see how it can be correct... that preventing your foot from twisting will put stress on your knee?

When I hit the deck at VIR at 100+ and slid out into the grass, I'm pretty sure a boot without the brace would've allowed the ground to twist my ankle all sorts of uncomfortable directions.

fasternyou929 01-08-2010 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by shmike (Post 316397)
Ordered the Vortices.

I really wanted to go with white but went with black instead.

You won't be disappointed. But you will be surprised how comfortable they are for walking around... once you realize your feet point forward no matter how hard you try to turn 'em. :lol:

azoomm 01-08-2010 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by fasternyou929 (Post 316473)
You won't be disappointed. But you will be surprised how comfortable they are for walking around... once you realize your feet point forward no matter how hard you try to turn 'em. :lol:

That, sir - was what sold me on them. I have been walking around the house in them to break them in a bit before riding. Well, the walkability AND the replaceable ball of foot are a DONE deal. I always bore a hole in the ball of my foot from the end of the rear-set. Replacing the sole is one thing - but to screw it off and then replace is dreamy.

I know, I'm a geek for shoes - but this is an entirely different level :lol:

Sean 01-08-2010 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by fasternyou929 (Post 316472)
that preventing your foot from twisting will put stress on your knee?

Yes. If the ankle can't bend it transfers that lateral energy to the knee, which isn't designed to bend sideways.

Fleck750 01-08-2010 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by azoomm (Post 316505)
I know, I'm a geek for shoes - but this is an entirely different level :lol:

Some women have a shoe fetish, I just want these.

Sidi Streetburners.

http://www.motonation.com/store/pc/c...294_detail.jpg

Curb 01-08-2010 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shmike (Post 316397)
Ordered the Vortices.

I really wanted to go with white but went with black instead.

I was told that I'd have them in on Thursday, they'll be at the Pompano store

Curb 01-08-2010 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trip (Post 316456)
Find me some cheap Sidi On Roads.

tell me what you are looking for and I will see what I can do


and in case anyone was wondering, yes i sell Sidi's

fasternyou929 01-08-2010 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Curb (Post 316679)
and in case anyone was wondering, yes i sell Sidi's at 50% off my cost

Sweet!

How much for a pair of the vortice airs?

OneSickPsycho 01-08-2010 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Curb (Post 316679)
tell me what you are looking for and I will see what I can do


and in case anyone was wondering, yes i sell Sidi's

Forum discount?

Curb 01-08-2010 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by fasternyou929 (Post 316695)
Sweet!

How much for a pair of the vortice airs?

Special price for you, Dan, $600 includes shipping :nee:

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho (Post 316696)
Forum discount?

I'll let ya know

OneSickPsycho 01-08-2010 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curb (Post 316701)
Special price for you, Dan, $600 includes shipping :nee:

I'll let ya know

Cool, I'm interested in cheap. Like there happens to be a pair of size 44's someone forgot about in the back room like 3 years ago cheap. :D

Trip 01-08-2010 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Curb (Post 316679)
tell me what you are looking for and I will see what I can do

and in case anyone was wondering, yes i sell Sidi's

I just want some cheap Sidi On Roads, it's the the waterproof touring boots. Little pricey for touring boots, I didn't even pay that much for my A* SMX pluses.

Fleck750 01-08-2010 10:42 PM

Could I get the Streetburners for less than $250?

Ijusthavetohavethese. :dribble:

GottahavetheSidis. :lol

Curb 01-09-2010 12:03 AM

i'll check on pricing and let everyone know. not sure if they are open tomorrow, but i will try and get a hold of some pricing for everyone

fasternyou929 01-09-2010 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Curb (Post 316701)
Special price for you, Dan, $600 includes shipping :nee:

That's it, I'm hiring a Nordic midget to whip your ass in public (again)!! :lol:

marko138 01-09-2010 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trip (Post 316729)
I just want some cheap Sidi On Roads, it's the the waterproof touring boots. Little pricey for touring boots, I didn't even pay that much for my A* SMX pluses.

I'm thinking about buyin the Pluses. Your thoughts?

Trip 01-09-2010 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by marko138 (Post 316953)
I'm thinking about buyin the Pluses. Your thoughts?

great boots, survived a bunch of shit with me including big wheeling. Ruined the heels that way. Just don't use them in the rain, they let water in like crazy.

marko138 01-09-2010 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Trip (Post 316954)
great boots, survived a bunch of shit with me including big wheeling. Ruined the heels that way. Just don't use them in the rain, they let water in like crazy.

Good to know. My SMX3's actually held out water for quite a while before my socks started getting wet.

Trip 01-09-2010 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by marko138 (Post 316956)
Good to know. My SMX3's actually held out water for quite a while before my socks started getting wet.

They hold up ok in a drizzle and car spray, but get a nice soaking rain and you are fucked. That's why I want the Sidi On Roads, they a good all around good touring boots.

Curb 01-09-2010 05:28 PM

so the boss said that i can offer you guys 15% off as long as i get at least 3 orders initially

Amber Lamps 01-09-2010 08:12 PM

FWIW the SMX-5 can be purchased "waterproof" and the SMX-plus boots used to have a waterproof/goretex version so maybe you can find a pair on closeout.

SMX-5 $250 retail

http://www.alpinestars.com/SMX_5_Wat.../p/224309.html

Trip 01-09-2010 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curb (Post 317013)
so the boss said that i can offer you guys 15% off as long as i get at least 3 orders initially

15% off msrp or ya'll normal pricing, pm me the price; i need to go find my size in them before I can order though. May have to swing buy cycle gear or a dealer that sells sidis.

Curb 01-09-2010 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Trip (Post 317056)
15% off msrp or ya'll normal pricing, pm me the price; i need to go find my size in them before I can order though. May have to swing buy cycle gear or a dealer that sells sidis.

I wont be back in the shop till wednesday, i'll try and do it then...and its MSRP, cause that is what we base our prices on

Phenix_Rider 01-10-2010 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Trip (Post 316959)
They hold up ok in a drizzle and car spray, but get a nice soaking rain and you are fucked. That's why I want the Sidi On Roads, they a good all around good touring boots.

They're a taller version of my Typhoons. Good stuff- my feet never got wet at the Rally or Indy.

The Vortices look really close to the Vertigo Corsa. The Corsa had the external ankle brace while the regular Vertigo didn't.

101lifts2 01-10-2010 01:52 PM

I'm on my second pair of Sidis since I started riding. I use the boots until there is a hole in the foot or sole. They are absolutely the best boot and I wouldn't buy anything else.

azoomm 01-10-2010 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 101lifts2 (Post 317228)
I'm on my second pair of Sidis since I started riding. I use the boots until there is a hole in the foot or sole. They are absolutely the best boot and I wouldn't buy anything else.

For $35 you can get a replacement sole. Then, take them to a cobbler and have them replace the sole... I found it worth it to have a spare pair of boots available.

Trip 01-10-2010 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phenix_Rider (Post 317211)
They're a taller version of my Typhoons. Good stuff- my feet never got wet at the Rally or Indy.

Good to know

I may get the canyons, they look like what I was looking for more than the on roads and are cheaper.

http://www.newenough.com/boots/water...cle_boots.html

ceo012384 01-10-2010 09:35 PM

The vortices definitely have more ankle support which is important for me because I have some screws in my ankle. The vortices are my race boot


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