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fnfalman 02-24-2010 12:57 AM

2010 WSBK testing at Phillip Island test 1
 
I'm curious but with the BMW putting out gobs and gobs of power with traction control and sophisticated suspension, then how come they kept running in the back of the group?

http://www.roadracerx.com/news/world...nd-test-day-1/

Times: 1. Checa C. (ESP) Ducati 1098R 1′31.959; 2. Fabrizio M. (ITA) Ducati 1098R 1′32.349; 3. Haslam L. (GBR) Suzuki GSX-R1000 1′32.484; 4. Haga N. (JPN) Ducati 1098R 1′32.518; 5. Rea J. (GBR) Honda CBR1000RR 1′32.544; 6. Byrne S. (GBR) Ducati 1098R 1′32.671; 7. Neukirchner M. (GER) Honda CBR1000RR 1′32.735; 8. Biaggi M. (ITA) Aprilia RSV4 1000 F. 1′32.832; 9. Smrz J. (CZE) Ducati 1098R 1′32.912; 10. Lanzi L. (ITA) Ducati 1098R 1′32.979; 11. Toseland J. (GBR) Yamaha YZF R1 1′33.135; 12. Guintoli S. (FRA) Suzuki GSX-R1000 1′33.190; 13. Sykes T. (GBR) Kawasaki ZX 10R 1′33.222; 14. Corser T. (AUS) BMW S1000 RR 1′33.299; 15. Crutchlow C. (GBR)Yamaha YZF R1 1′33.444; 16. Xaus R. (ESP) BMW S1000 RR 1′33.498

Dave 02-24-2010 01:47 AM

the other recently overhyped litre is doing shitty as well. ;)

Amber Lamps 02-24-2010 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fnfalman (Post 341020)
I'm curious but with the BMW putting out gobs and gobs of power with traction control and sophisticated suspension, then how come they kept running in the back of the group?

http://www.roadracerx.com/news/world...nd-test-day-1/

Times: 1. Checa C. (ESP) Ducati 1098R 1′31.959; 2. Fabrizio M. (ITA) Ducati 1098R 1′32.349; 3. Haslam L. (GBR) Suzuki GSX-R1000 1′32.484; 4. Haga N. (JPN) Ducati 1098R 1′32.518; 5. Rea J. (GBR) Honda CBR1000RR 1′32.544; 6. Byrne S. (GBR) Ducati 1098R 1′32.671; 7. Neukirchner M. (GER) Honda CBR1000RR 1′32.735; 8. Biaggi M. (ITA) Aprilia RSV4 1000 F. 1′32.832; 9. Smrz J. (CZE) Ducati 1098R 1′32.912; 10. Lanzi L. (ITA) Ducati 1098R 1′32.979; 11. Toseland J. (GBR) Yamaha YZF R1 1′33.135; 12. Guintoli S. (FRA) Suzuki GSX-R1000 1′33.190; 13. Sykes T. (GBR) Kawasaki ZX 10R 1′33.222; 14. Corser T. (AUS) BMW S1000 RR 1′33.299; 15. Crutchlow C. (GBR)Yamaha YZF R1 1′33.444; 16. Xaus R. (ESP) BMW S1000 RR 1′33.498


That is a conundrum...

Amber Lamps 02-24-2010 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 341038)
the other recently overhyped litre is doing shitty as well. ;)

Not any worse than the Yamaha....

smileyman 02-24-2010 09:40 AM

According to knowledgable sources includin Corser himself the BMW had a stiff chassis and sudden power delivery. The key was trying to correct the issues and then find a TC package to adapt it to diff circuits.

Toseland will get used to the Yammie but lets face it those team riders aint Ben Spies!

The RSVs are probably testing new stuff at this early a test and Biaggi feels no pressure to top the sheets in testing so...Their other rider is new to the bike.

Dave 02-24-2010 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TIGGER (Post 341077)
Not any worse than the Yamaha....

lol! I was talking about the yamaha

z06boy 02-24-2010 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 341198)
lol! I was talking about the yamaha

Oh the bike that won last year...gotcha !! Wow another Yamaha won the SS class and Moto GP...damn pieces of crap !! :rofl:

Oh that's right...it's the rider if they win but the bike if they come up short. :lol

Speedracer42 02-24-2010 10:32 AM

First. Its a fucking test. Its unlikely that they are trying to get every last tenth out of it just yet. Second. Testing is not racing. Its fun to see how people do in testing but its not necessarily indicitive of anything. When Rossi switched from Honda to Yamaha he was NOT leading the charts in the majority of tests. Yet he won the first race and the fucking championship in the first year. Give it time people.

z06boy 02-24-2010 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Speedracer42 (Post 341256)
First. Its a fucking test. Its unlikely that they are trying to get every last tenth out of it just yet. Second. Testing is not racing. Its fun to see how people do in testing but its not necessarily indicitive of anything. When Rossi switched from Honda to Yamaha he was leading the charts in the majority of tests. Yet he won the first race and the fucking championship in the first year. Give it time people.

Yep pretty much !!

smileyman 02-24-2010 11:25 AM

Your right it is just a test. Something to consider is riders on last years 1098R's were lapping with data from last year and putting up good times. They likely won't see much improvement from that point. The Yammies were not likely to be using last years baseline and probably were working on their own due to 2 new riders, the BMWs were testing new parts and so were the RSVs so they weren't even looking for a baseline yet and will likely pick up a lot over the next test. The GSXR and ZX10 squads have new riders to break in as well, but they have last years development and probably not alot more to sqeeze out. sO...It is only a test...

Dave 02-24-2010 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by z06boy (Post 341243)
Oh the bike that won last year...gotcha !! Wow another Yamaha won the SS class and Moto GP...damn pieces of crap !! :rofl:

Oh that's right...it's the rider if they win but the bike if they come up short. :lol

wasnt exactly a winner on the street though ;) we'll see how it does this year

ontwo 02-24-2010 11:28 AM

Test or no test. I still think it will be Haga and Fabrizio to beat

smileyman 02-24-2010 11:34 AM

Well the rider doeshave something to do with it. Tom Sykes had the same team and Bike as Spies and ??

Obviously Toseland and Crutchlow will catch on to it, they wont be off pace long if at all.

z06boy 02-24-2010 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 341356)
wasnt exactly a winner on the street though ;) we'll see how it does this year

Some like them and some don't...like everything else.

Well when the 08 CBR1000RR came out it got all of the raves...hasn't done chit on the track since then and is now known for being an oil burner. :idk:

There's been a bunch of CBR leftovers selling for cheap cheap...can hardly give them away it seems.

There is good and bad about all bikes.

Dave 02-24-2010 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by z06boy (Post 341376)
Some like them and some don't...like everything else.

Well when the 08 CBR1000RR came out it got all of the raves...hasn't done chit on the track since then and is now known for being an oil burner. :idk:

There's been a bunch of CBR leftovers selling for cheap cheap...can hardly give them away it seems.

There is good and bad about all bikes.

which is all i was saying in the first place :lol:

z06boy 02-24-2010 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 341384)
which is all i was saying in the first place :lol:

Shut up...no YOU shut up...no You shut up...no You shut up...no...oh wait...what were we arguing about ? :rofl: :evg: :cheers:

Dave 02-24-2010 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by z06boy (Post 341411)
Shut up...no YOU shut up...no You shut up...no You shut up...no...oh wait...what were we arguing about ? :rofl: :evg: :cheers:

well, it keeps the ol' post count up

karl_1052 02-24-2010 02:08 PM

I thought Roger Lee was racing WSBK.:?:

Dave 02-24-2010 02:27 PM

he is...in the back

Dave 02-24-2010 06:19 PM

we asked fabrizio what he thought of the S1000RR

http://motogpmatters.smugmug.com/Wor...8_nhv2n-X3.jpg

Particle Man 02-24-2010 10:54 PM

:lol:

marko138 02-25-2010 11:15 AM

Awesome picture.

z06boy 02-25-2010 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by marko138 (Post 342233)
Awesome picture.

No kidding...love that shot !!!!

Rider 02-25-2010 11:35 AM

New desktop... thanks.


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