2003 SV650 HP/TQ mods?
 

The title should be 2003+. Planning on getting one of these next month as I want a V-twin sportbike that's not 1000CC and my options are limited. Used to ride a GSX-R750, KTM Supermoto, etc. I know this isn't going to have the power of the GSX-R, but what can I do that's reasonable in cost (no engine work, etc) to boost power?

BTW, I'm not a squid who can't ride, for those who don't know me. Pic below to prove it :boobs:

Also - I'm planning on picking one up that's got upgraded forks/rear shock, so no need to mention that.

where are you located?

Asheville, NC

Get this:
http://panamacity.craigslist.org/mcy/1908032056.html

or this:

http://lincoln.craigslist.org/mcy/1907512470.html

or this:
http://miami.craigslist.org/pbc/mcy/1867802267.html
http://rochester.craigslist.org/mcy/1934390338.html
or this:http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/mcy/1923880870.html

or one of these:
http://reno.craigslist.org/mcy/1936945588.html

http://www.triumph.co.uk/images/thru..._main_2008.jpg
http://recreation-cadres.chez-alice....20formula.jpeg



http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/Gal...003%20%201.jpg

or one of these; guy I know has a converted, titled, street-legal US model:
http://www.superbike.lv/images/wallp...mota_v-due.jpg





You are only as limited as your imagination............and bank balance.......

or an 850 lemans, or a 904 SS duc, or a 750, they even made a 620 Duc SS..05 or 06, i think.....A Yamaha Vision, a XV920H........the 500 or 700/750 Interceptors, Moto Morinis (350 and 500)....I'll think of more.......

Yeah, gonna have to pass on all of those. Thanks for the tips, but I want another Japanese bike that requires minimal maintenance and can be ridden very hard without any fear of repercussions. Not to mention the availability of SVs makes them easy to find and fairly inexpensive.

http://seattle-motorcycles.com/wp-co...onbrochure.jpg

Seriously man? I want something I can ride hard, I already have a quirky old V twin. I want a sportbike manufactured within the last 8 years or so.

The Duc750/800 will take all the abuse you can dish out...set one up with Ti retainers (about one afternoon in the garage and less than $100 bucks) and you'll be good for 12-16K between valve checks.....oil and other services same as Jap bikes.....

and you'll have a quick, inexpensive bike that'll blow the SV's away on the street or the track in every way they can be had for $3500-$4500, which is about the same as a decent SVs

All you said was you wanted an under 1000 V-twin......;)

Did a little research, the Ducs you referenced have less HP than SVs, same torque or less, and weigh more. Again, I really do appreciate the advice, but if I were going to get something larger than the SV, I'd get an RC-51 or maybe an Aprilia Mille. I've got my eye on a late model SV with low miles and some nice suspension/exhaust upgrades.

Sorry, just read your original post and you said your options are limited...if you want fast, water-cooled v-twin, then you could also look at the 748... I had a pristine example this spring with less than 4k on it for less than $4k and it would romp all over the sv.. I know cause I have a 650 with a Penske shock and Racetech forks and some engine mods and a stock SV1000 and it ran circles all around both... but you said you wanted and SV and that's what you've made up your mind for.

OK...got it.....

As to your original question;
without engine work, you are pretty much limited to exhaust, filter/airbox, PCommander and a dyno map. These mods will yield about an additional 4-8 rear-wheel HP (at least on our Dynojet 250i that's what we see).

If this is a strictly track machine, you can coax an additional 2-4 HP out using MR11 or 12 race gas, but you'll need to drain and flush after each weekend.

After that, it's pretty much crack it open; there are high comp kits, stroker kits, big bore kits, cams, bored-out throttle bodies (which won't give you any more HP till you've done the other stuff).

Damn, I thought it would be more than that with all of the emissions crap. I was hoping for another 8-10hp from the PCIII, Filter, full exhaust. I might just do a slipon for the SV if it's only netting a couple HP anyway.

The only real "emissions control crap" on the SV are twofold; the air injection of the exhaust to burn hydrocarbons in the tailpipe before they go out, and extremely lean mixture in the lower rpm range.

Enriching up the mixture is going to see some power LOSS.... offset by the increased flow of a full system and better filter.

You might see 1-2 hp with just a can; a good full system will same you 10-15 lbs and provide for better flow.

Most of the gains have to do with the initial state of tune and the care to which the bike is re-set up and mapped.

Stickers. Lots of stickers.


But seriously, OTB has it nailed. You can put an aTRE on for less jerky response in the first few gears but that isn't going to give you any increase in bhp.

Other than what's already been mentioned (exhaust, air filter, etc) you'd definitely need to crack open the engine. At that point, you'll have put more $ into it that could have been spent on a bike with more stock bhp. You're better off investing in better tires and putting more into the suspension (I know you said the suspension has already been upgraded - was that just by changing the stock fork innards and replacing the rear shock with a surrogate shock like a ZX6R or similar or is it a full setup like an Ohlins or Penske setup? If the former, save for the latter - I know I am :lol:. If the latter, get it dialed in/resprung specifically for you). The SV isn't a power machine, nor was it really intended to be. It is, however, flickable and fun as hell to ride - get one for that reason. If bhp is the requirement, go for something else. :)

100% agreement. It always amazes me watching guys spend thousands of dollars to make a bike gain 20 hp...just get a bigger bike. I'm not sure why the SV1000 is off the table.:idk::idk:

Or the mille...

Because an SV1000 doesn't handle like the 650 does, doesn't have near as much support/aftermarket, and also if you were going to get one of those, why not go better and get a TLR?

How's a tlr better?

more top-end hp, and way better looking

Than an sv or a mille? You need your eyes checked :lmao:

1) You're the only person who included the Mille in this discussion
2) You need your eyes checked if you think an SV looks better than a TLR........LMAO, the TLR is a classic, while the SV looks like an old man's sport-tourer unless you seriously mod it.

I actually did mention a Mille earlier, I think someone else did afterwards. But I do agree that the faired version of the SV is hideous. I've always like the TLR's look.

1 u downt reed gud
2 CULT classic, it looks like a beached whale with a unibrow. Osp likes em. Nuff said

Is there a reason rc's and superhawks have been excluded?

I mentioned an RC too... so maybe you down reed gud as well. I just wanna keep the weight down and I'm also just trying to spend 3500ish.

Superhawks have been excluded cuz they're ugly, too conservative looking, & slow.

:lol:

And good luck finding an RC or Mille for $3500. Unless it's a crashed first-gen Mille......Or maybe a Futura.

I already knew that, I'm dyslexic :P.

Craigslist had an rc for around 3, a falco at 4, and a tuono at 4 obo.

Not around here. If I could find a nice RC or Mille for under 4, I'd get it.

To each his own but i think the big SV is a viable option and with a tail kit/seat cowl, plus a high exit exhaust, you'd have something and be well under your budget. BTW most of the mods that go on a 650, also can be used with the 1000 afaik. Suspension, etc...

The black one looks passable, but black out the clutch cover, and ditch the red rim stripes.

Yea well, when it's your bike you can do whatever you want to it... my point is that saying that the bike is "hideous" is a bit much imho. I think it's a decent looking bike, that has a ton of potential. Oh and the after market isn't that bad at all. You have to remember that we're not the only country in the world and the SV1000 was a decent seller for Suzuki elsewhere. OTB bought an SV1k for $1000, after he fixes it, he'll have less than $2k into it. Tail, fairing and exhaust for under $1000... Ta, Da! Heck, I've seen GSXR forks for $100 and shocks for $30... He could have one heck of a bike for $3-4,000.

I'd buy a naked one if I get an SV most likely. Here's a pic of a friend's I used to ride back in the day. After we put those dirtbike handlebars on there, I really liked the style and feel of it.

Edit: Btw, he used to run a 180 rear tire as pictured there. I rode it like that and it seemed to handle fine. He had no issues keeping right with me in the twisties as well.

As a TLR owner, I say the SV is hands down a better looking machine.

Well, go to any bike night, and watch what happens when a TLR comes. People start saying "damn, that was my dream bike back in the day......"

Think people are ever going to say that about an SV1000?

Granted, a TLR isn't impressive now....But it was back when it was new. Was the SV1000?

Um the SV just wasn't marketed or made that way... but I would be interested to see a TLR vs SV match up with only a suspension upgrade to GSXR pieces.

The 06 SV1k was about .5 sec slower than the 98 TLR in the 1/4 mile(sportrider), which was a little down on HP, FWIW. The SV1K does weigh less though, so that could help with cornering.

I wouldn't mind either one parked in my driveway. I've ridden the SV1k and I prefer the 650 but that doesn't mean I wouldn't buy one if the price were right.

most of the quotes i hear are along the lines of that gixxer isint firing on all cylinders :lmao: 'course if they do know what it is they never shut up about how much the rear suspension sucked ass

I would. I LOVED the SV1k since it first came out... desperately wanted one... I do like the Tiller a lot though... out of the box performance is the only thing that keeps me from selling it and buying the SV1k. In fact, when I bought my Buell I was looking for an SV1k.

That Duc is sick.

Friend's got one of those. And I agree

it looks sorta like the older model TL...

Those are good looking bikes, but I don't get why anyone would buy something with a sportbike-like riding position and a Ducati pricetag if it only has 75hp. Seems like those people should buy a Monster instead.

Depends on what kind of riding you do. If you are a point-and-shoot kind of rider, then it likely won't do much for you...if you are a cornerspeed type of rider; then it might just fill the bill; and if you look carefully, you can pick a nice one up with low miles for $3500-4000.

And the riding position is more relaxed and comfy than it looks.

REALLY!