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derf 09-21-2010 06:15 PM

legal question about riding
 
Ok so here is the HYPOTHETICAL situation, I was going down one road at 45 mph, and made a right turn onto the other road at 45mph, is that actually illegal since I never broke the speed limit on either road?

Dave 09-21-2010 06:30 PM

that depends entirely on what the cop says :lol:

Particle Man 09-21-2010 06:37 PM

at a right angle? :eek:

derf 09-21-2010 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Particle Man (Post 410801)
at a right angle? :eek:

its really 4 lanes because of the shoulders, freshly paved, an ex thourofare that was closed off on one end, a soon to be built industrial complex without buildings and except for a cop and a few motorcycles there was nobody on it all day, no trees around and you can see the whole area if there is any traffic. Was almost a closed course track.

The cop just happened to be driving by on a parallel street and pulled in with his lights blaring asked everyone for their papers and after yelling at us for speeding around a corner let us go.

Trip 09-21-2010 08:08 PM

if you are dragging knee or just hanging off like a mad man, they can go after you for reckless riding. you can fight it in court, but unfortunately there is nothing you can do in public besides making sure you get witnesses.

derf 09-21-2010 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Trip (Post 410839)
if you are dragging knee or just hanging off like a mad man, they can go after you for reckless riding. you can fight it in court, but unfortunately there is nothing you can do in public besides making sure you get witnesses.

My knee never touched the ground.

The cop let us all go, so no harm no foul, but he did say that he could have ticketed us specifically for speeding, which since nobody broke the speed limit doesnt really seem to make sense to me.

Trip 09-21-2010 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by derf (Post 410842)
My knee never touched the ground.

The cop let us all go, so no harm no foul, but he did say that he could have ticketed us specifically for speeding, which since nobody broke the speed limit doesnt really seem to make sense to me.

He was just being a douche and trying to scare yall into knocking it off. Surprised he didn't go after yall for loitering or some shit being in an abandoned area.

101lifts2 09-21-2010 09:15 PM

45mph around a 90degree turn huh...sure you didn't "back it in"? lol

derf 09-21-2010 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 101lifts2 (Post 410870)
45mph around a 90degree turn huh...sure you didn't "back it in"? lol

just once when I rode over the yellow line and the back wheel slid a bit, gave me a pucker moment. I wish I could show you how wide the road was, looks liek it was designed to give trucks plenty of wiggle room to turn without hitting any curbs

Dave 09-21-2010 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by derf (Post 410877)
just once when I rode over the yellow line and the back wheel slid a bit, gave me a pucker moment. I wish I could show you how wide the road was, looks liek it was designed to give trucks plenty of wiggle room to turn without hitting any curbs

hate it when that happens. was this the blade or the kwak?

derf 09-21-2010 10:19 PM

cbr

Dnyce 09-22-2010 02:28 AM

say the speedlimit is 45, but its raining. cop can technically give u a ticket for speeding bcuz he can say u are going too fast for the conditions. so, hypothetically, yea u can get a ticket. reckless driving, unsafe lane change, exhibitionism etc. lots of stuff to blanket u with, if they really wanted to be douchey

Mikey 09-22-2010 06:12 AM

Illegal lane change. Unless you turned from the right turn lane into the right lane, you changed lanes in an intersection, which is illegal. You'll have to check your state's laws, but most states have a law about changing lanes within so many feet of an intersection. While you were at it, I'm sure you didn't signal the lane changes, nor go the requisite distance between lane changes.

Add to that any "equipment violations" you may have, and you've got quite the ticket stack.

Of course, there are also the "reckless driving" and "too fast for conditions" charges that are really based on the individual officer's assessment.

derf 09-22-2010 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikey (Post 410975)
Illegal lane change. Unless you turned from the right turn lane into the right lane, you changed lanes in an intersection, which is illegal. You'll have to check your state's laws, but most states have a law about changing lanes within so many feet of an intersection. While you were at it, I'm sure you didn't signal the lane changes, nor go the requisite distance between lane changes.

Add to that any "equipment violations" you may have, and you've got quite the ticket stack.

Of course, there are also the "reckless driving" and "too fast for conditions" charges that are really based on the individual officer's assessment.

I'm quite familiar with those grey tickets that they can give you for being in contempt of cop, I was just wondering if speeding is one of them. Oh and state was in VA

Particle Man 09-22-2010 08:16 AM

Speeding is subjective. All said LEO has to say is "too fast for road conditions" and you're speeding. Good luck if that happens, too.

Dave 09-22-2010 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by derf (Post 410986)
VA

Lucky you didn't get the death penalty

Smittie61984 09-22-2010 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 411012)
Lucky you didn't get the death penalty

Truff

You can also Google Map the road for us so we know what you are exactly talking about. And next time just do a wheelie.

z06boy 09-22-2010 10:48 AM

'Too fast for conditions' or 'Unsafe movement' or 'Careless and Wreckless' but don't see how it could be for "Speeding" if you didn't go over the speed limit. :idk:

ontwo 09-22-2010 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by derf (Post 410877)
just once when I rode over the yellow line and the back wheel slid a bit, gave me a pucker moment. I wish I could show you how wide the road was, looks liek it was designed to give trucks plenty of wiggle room to turn without hitting any curbs

If he would have seen that, you might have gotten a reckless riding charge. As for the speeding, I agree that it is subjective.

KSGregman 09-22-2010 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 411012)
Lucky you didn't get the death penalty

Agreed.

It seems that things are different in the "Commonwealth."

tommymac 09-22-2010 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 411012)
Lucky you didn't get the death penalty

Esp if he still has jersey plates. only thing worse is NY plates down there.

pauldun170 09-22-2010 04:01 PM

Cop pulls you over.
"What are you an asshole? Do you know how fast you were going around that corner?"

Well officer, I am not equipped with a state calibrated speedometer so I can make no comment on my speed, so I must rely on your assessment.

"You took that corner too fast!!"
What speed was I travelling? Did I exceed the posted speed limit?
"No"
What is the exact lawful speed that I must travel through this corner?
"....(reaches for Taser) you were reckless"
Reckless means foolhardy, marked by defiant disregard for danger or consequences. At no point during the turn was I out of control nor was I at any point negligent in observing the conditions to ensure that no one, including myself was in danger.

12 tickets, 5 hours later in the jail cell.....

Particle Man 09-22-2010 04:25 PM

Don't taze me, bro...

racedoll 09-30-2010 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by pauldun170 (Post 411196)
Cop pulls you over.
"What are you an asshole? Do you know how fast you were going around that corner?"

Well officer, I am not equipped with a state calibrated speedometer so I can make no comment on my speed, so I must rely on your assessment.

"You took that corner too fast!!"
What speed was I travelling? Did I exceed the posted speed limit?
"No"
What is the exact lawful speed that I must travel through this corner?
"....(reaches for Taser) you were reckless"
Reckless means foolhardy, marked by defiant disregard for danger or consequences. At no point during the turn was I out of control nor was I at any point negligent in observing the conditions to ensure that no one, including myself was in danger.

12 tickets, 5 hours later in the jail cell.....

Nice! :dthumb:

And I don't see how they could ticket you for speeding since you didn't break any limits and there isn't one on how fast you can or cannot take a corner. If that were the case, I'd be getting pulled over quite often, bike or car.


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