New York City bans outdoor smoking

[L8 Braker]

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New York City outdoor smoking ban begins - CNN.com

[derf]

This is another non-enforcable law. They have laws on the books already that ban smoking in most parts of public parks, as well as to fine people for littering. There will be a ton of tickets handed out right away, but after a little while the cops will go back to not caring. Plus they have bigger crimes to worry about than smoking in public.

Also the 50k figure for second hand smoking deaths are a BS figure. How many of those deaths are from an occasional exposure vs non smokers who live in the same house as smokers? I just dont buy it.


Alibi: Except for 2 moments of weakness I haven't lit up in 4 weeks.

[Particle Man]

It will go on longer this time, Fred. The city needs money and this is a cash cow just standing there waiting for the city to milk it. Oppose the law and you're "against public health" and al that.

Traffic and smoking tickets = $

[derf]

Originally Posted by Particle Man

It will go on longer this time, Fred. The city needs money and this is a cash cow just standing there waiting for the city to milk it. Oppose the law and you're "against public health" and al that.

Traffic and smoking tickets = $

No, this is the same old story again about creating laws to make more money:

We expected to make $X,XXX,XXX per year and the program will pay for itself, but we only made $XX,XXX and now we owe money.


They created some program (forget what it was) when they banned smoking in bars expecting the bar smoking fines to pay for it. They made some crazy multimillion dollar figure less than expected. It reminds me of speeding and red light camera programs.

I'm for public health and all, but make it worth while and actually do something other than be a token political move

[RACER X]

Fyi, since Z is a cancer nurse, she has a little more insight and info then most there is something now called 3rd hand smoke that they are looking into

[VatorMan]

I really don't care if someone want to kill themselves by smoking,but the litter and smell I have to endure makes me glad they are doing it.

[dubbs]

Originally Posted by VatorMan

I really don't care if someone want to kill themselves by smoking,but the litter and smell I have to endure makes me glad they are doing it.

But it's outside!.. just don't stand near them.. this magical thing called wind carries it away..

Edit - I will agree about the litter.. at some intersections if you look to the right or left of the road there are hundreds of thousands of cigarette butts.. Craziness..

I will also say that I'm not a smoker..

[RACER X]

Originally Posted by dubbs

But it's outside!.. just don't stand near them.. this magical thing called wind carries it away..

Edit - I will agree about the litter.. at some intersections if you look to the right or left of the road there are hundreds of thousands of cigarette butts.. Craziness..

I will also say that I'm not a smoker..

That wind is a fickle thing sometimes your upwind sometimes not


, ever smelled a person blow smoke out the car window, and your on the bike behind them?

[dubbs]

Originally Posted by RACER X

, ever smelled a person blow smoke out the car window, and your on the bike behind them?

Yup.. Do you really think that's hurting you? It's like thinking getting an X-ray is the equivalent of being in the vicinity of a nuclear meltdown..

[marko138]

Good.