motogp fun with numbers. the yamaha m1

[Dave]

Originally Posted by anthonyk

I'd say it was a combination of both. A bit of development and a crapload of skill resulted in those first couple of titles. Continued development over the years resulted in Yamaha taking several constructor's championships.

Ahh but if he wasn't in the picture that bike could have taken the title in its first year...

[anthonyk]

Originally Posted by Dave

Ahh but if he wasn't in the picture that bike could have taken the title in its first year...

Maybe so... But would Max have been inspired to ride so hard if Vale wasn't bugging the shit out of him?

[Dave]

Originally Posted by anthonyk

Maybe so... But would Max have been inspired to ride so hard if Vale wasn't bugging the shit out of him?

Four 250gp titles say yes

[smileyman]

Originally Posted by Dave

Ahh but if he wasn't in the picture that bike could have taken the title in its first year...

Well pretend Rossi and Burgess had not been there, dropped out whatever. Yamaha and Biaggi had seen the limit of their development and that same year Honda fielded a horde of RCVs due to Rossi being at Yamaha, which we are pretending didnt happen.

does max win that title??Not sure.

I say the bike was there due to Rossi signing and his feedback. I say they won the title that year due to Yamaha taking a new direction under Burgess and Rossi's input. The success of the cross plane had alot to do with Burgess' tuning on Rossi's feedback. No Rossi, no cross plane, no Burgess, no championship, IMHO.

[Amber Lamps]

There is one factor you all are forgetting Rossi Sponsor Money... money talks and bull shit walks.

[askmrjesus]

Originally Posted by Dave

Sbk doesn't need the post race antics. Bad enough lorenzo picked it up

Yeah, God forbid the racers have any personality...

Rossi and Burgess brought a lot of meat to the table, seasoned to Rossi's tastes.

What's good for the goose, is not necessarily good for the gander.

JC

[Dave]

Originally Posted by askmrjesus

Yeah, God forbid the racers have any personality...

Rossi and Burgess brought a lot of meat to the table, seasoned to Rossi's tastes.

What's good for the goose, is not necessarily good for the gander.

JC

edwards has personality. i dont see him doing the fucking thriller dance with 300 extras immediately postrace

[askmrjesus]

Originally Posted by Dave

edwards has personality. i dont see him doing the fucking thriller dance with 300 extras immediately postrace

You don't seeing him fucking winning either.

JC

[smileyman]

Originally Posted by askmrjesus

You don't seeing him fucking winning either.

JC

I do remember him popping Bayliss with a towel after clinching the 02 WSBK Championship...

[askmrjesus]

Originally Posted by smileyman

I do remember him popping Bayliss with a towel after clinching the 02 WSBK Championship...

Yeah, but that's old news.

Edwards drives me crazy. He's fast in practice, and fast in qualifying, but he can't hang in races anymore.

The boy was born to fade.

JC