2001 Suzuki TL1000R vs. 2002 Honda CBR 954RR... another biased comparison.

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Originally Posted by Ebbs15

cause I didn't want one. and I knew I could keep my ego in check enough to not get out of control on a 600.

I'd actually like to have a little 250 now for commuting... think'n of maybe buy'n my bro's when he moves up

Wait did YOU just say that YOU KNEW that you could keep you ego in check enough to NOT get out of control on a 600? Senior Loopy,I can keep MY ego in check enough to own a GSXR1000,YOU on the other hand looped a 600,a ZZR600 at that. Quite frankly,there isn't tangible proof that you should be allowed to ride any bike,much less one more powerful than the one you wrecked doing a wheelie!

Anyway,I'm just saying that if performance doesn't matter and only "squids" like myself buy a bike based on how it performs,then all the rest of you should own 250s...who cares how fast it goes right?

[Dnyce]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

Wait did YOU just say that YOU KNEW that you could keep you ego in check enough to NOT get out of control on a 600? Senior Loopy,I can keep MY ego in check enough to own a GSXR1000,YOU on the other hand looped a 600,a ZZR600 at that. Quite frankly,there isn't tangible proof that you should be allowed to ride any bike,much less one more powerful than the one you wrecked doing a wheelie!

says the guy that hit three deer
you know its a deer area, slow the fuck down on that big 1000, creep thru there, no deer problem. would think u would learn after one, but noooo, had to murder two more of natures beautiful creatures.





before u guys start talkin about dicks again-ebbs looping and your deerslaying is technically both rider error based on the logic in this thread. so neither one of u should ride. problem solved lol, go buy a razor scooter

and performance isnt just how fast it goes btw

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Originally Posted by Archren

Quoted for truth.

Um you own a fucking 1098. The performance numbers and stats had nothing to do with your decision? So did you buy it just because it a Duc or was it for the pretty color? I mean if you don't care about performance then why not just buy the 800 then? They look similar and it's cheaper.

All I'm saying is that it gets kinda old that some people think that EVERY decision a guy makes is based on his penis size. I guess that means I should drive an Aero and my bike should be a 50cc moped!

[Mr Lefty]

Originally Posted by Dnyce

i know, but u set it up so perfectly, i was obligated to knock it down-twfix way homie

I know... i knew I'd hear flack...

Originally Posted by TIGGER

Wait did YOU just say that YOU KNEW that you could keep you ego in check enough to NOT get out of control on a 600? Senior Loopy,I can keep MY ego in check enough to own a GSXR1000,YOU on the other hand looped a 600,a ZZR600 at that. Quite frankly,there isn't tangible proof that you should be allowed to ride any bike,much less one more powerful than the one you wrecked doing a wheelie!

Anyway,I'm just saying that if performance doesn't matter and only "squids" like myself buy a bike based on how it performs,then all the rest of you should own 250s...who cares how fast it goes right?

like I said... I looped it from being exhausted... not from squid'n around. and my ZZR600 was an SS in 02 so not sure what the ZZR600 at that comment was about.

and no there is not tangeable proof... like i said... the reason I bought it was BECAUSE I WANTED IT. the fact that I said I knew I could handle it was my justification TO MYSELF... I could care less if you or anyone else thinks I'm able to handle the bike... hence I didn't post up asking anyones opinion when I was in the market.

I still believe I can handle a 600 just fine... I learned the hardway that you can't relax too much and that long trips like that take their toll not only on the body but on the mind. I don't think I'll ever need or want a liter I4. I imagine I could handle one just fine... but I don't care to. they offer nothing I need or want.

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Originally Posted by Dnyce

says the guy that hit three deer
you know its a deer area, slow the fuck down on that big 1000, creep thru there, no deer problem. would think u would learn after one, but noooo, had to murder two more of natures beautiful creatures.





before u guys start talkin about dicks again-ebbs looping and your deerslaying is technically both rider error based on the logic in this thread. so neither one of u should ride. problem solved lol, go buy a razor scooter

and performance isnt just how fast it goes btw

Haha my long lost brother! Only one of my deer murders were committed in a posted deer area. To be honest,EVERYWHERE is a deer area around here! There's a carcass across the street from my apt complex and I live 5 miles from downtown. For the record,I wasn't going that fast for any of them and considering that I didn't hit the deck during two of them,I think I did ok. In fact,that point alone illustrates my SUPERIOR ability to control a motorcycle and my worthiness to ride! Besides,you're really stretching here...even the ins companies don't consider deer accidents an at fault collision.

Oh and here's the progression;

I make joke about Buells not being able to compete even with double the ccs and a number of AMA concessions.

Someone else accuses me of riding a GSXR1000 to compensate for my small penis size.

I point out that,unlike Buell,my bike has won several championships and thus has nothing to prove.

OSP and others,say that I'm basically stupid for buying a bike based on performance (even tho' I never stated that's why I bought my bike).

I state that if no one cares about performance then why don't you all just buy 250s?

Ebbs chimes in about how he can control his ego and a 600.

I pick on him for looping a "low performance" 600 and then wanting to go out and buy a high performance 600.

BTW I never said the performance is strictly confined to hp. I know better. Anyway,the debate was I4s vs V twins,I believe. Bottom line,if V twins were so great then they wouldn't NEED special accommodations to win championships! PERIOD! If a V-twin can't win in a level playing field then maybe Ducati should get out of racing,start their own "Thunder" league like Harley, or re-think their engine configuration.

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Originally Posted by Ebbs15

I know... i knew I'd hear flack...



like I said... I looped it from being exhausted... not from squid'n around. and my ZZR600 was an SS in 02 so not sure what the ZZR600 at that comment was about.

and no there is not tangeable proof... like i said... the reason I bought it was BECAUSE I WANTED IT. the fact that I said I knew I could handle it was my justification TO MYSELF... I could care less if you or anyone else thinks I'm able to handle the bike... hence I didn't post up asking anyones opinion when I was in the market.

I still believe I can handle a 600 just fine... I learned the hardway that you can't relax too much and that long trips like that take their toll not only on the body but on the mind. I don't think I'll ever need or want a liter I4. I imagine I could handle one just fine... but I don't care to. they offer nothing I need or want.

Fuck,when did you guys post all those one liners?

Anyway,your reason for getting the bike you bought was because YOU wanted to. Ok but why is that a better reason than my supposed performance reason? I still don't see that I said that I bought my bike strictly because of it's racing performance...heck,when I got my '01 they hadn't even been raced yet....even so why are your,OSP's,Archen's,etc reasons for buying the bikes you have(had) valid and my "reason" is wrong? Please explain.

[Dave]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

Haha my long lost brother! Only one of my deer murders were committed in a posted deer area. To be honest,EVERYWHERE is a deer area around here! There's a carcass across the street from my apt complex and I live 5 miles from downtown. For the record,I wasn't going that fast for any of them and considering that I didn't hit the deck during two of them,I think I did ok. In fact,that point alone illustrates my SUPERIOR ability to control a motorcycle and my worthiness to ride! Besides,you're really stretching here...even the ins companies don't consider deer accidents an at fault collision.

Oh and here's the progression;

I make joke about Buells not being able to compete even with double the ccs and a number of AMA concessions.

Someone else accuses me of riding a GSXR1000 to compensate for my small penis size.

I point out that,unlike Buell,my bike has won several championships and thus has nothing to prove.

OSP and others,say that I'm basically stupid for buying a bike based on performance (even tho' I never stated that's why I bought my bike).

I state that if no one cares about performance then why don't you all just buy 250s?

Ebbs chimes in about how he can control his ego and a 600.

I pick on him for looping a "low performance" 600 and then wanting to go out and buy a high performance 600.

BTW I never said the performance is strictly confined to hp. I know better. Anyway,the debate was I4s vs V twins,I believe. Bottom line,if V twins were so great then they wouldn't NEED special accommodations to win championships! PERIOD! If a V-twin can't win in a level playing field then maybe Ducati should get out of racing,start their own "Thunder" league like Harley, or re-think their engine configuration.

#1 i agree, and i was right about to post up behind carolina asking exactly how many times you went DOWN because of deer.

#2 look at the desmo gp7-gp9

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Originally Posted by Dave

#1 i agree, and i was right about to post up behind carolina asking exactly how many times you went DOWN because of deer.

#2 look at the desmo gp7-gp9

Thanks man! *Sniffle* my own long lost brother is against me *sniffle* and a fellow GSXR rider at that....oh the betrayal!

Of course the kicker was someone that owns a 1098 saying that buying a motorcycle based on performance/racing heritage is stupid!!!

[Mr Lefty]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

Fuck,when did you guys post all those one liners?

Anyway,your reason for getting the bike you bought was because YOU wanted to. Ok but why is that a better reason than my supposed performance reason? I still don't see that I said that I bought my bike strictly because of it's racing performance...heck,when I got my '01 they hadn't even been raced yet....even so why are your,OSP's,Archen's,etc reasons for buying the bikes you have(had) valid and my "reason" is wrong? Please explain.

one liners?

and I never said my reason was better or worse... than yours... I agreed that 99.9% of us don't ride our bikes to what they're capable of.

your reasons are YOUR REASONS... who the fuck cares if anyone else agree's with them? the ones that try to sell us on their reasons are the ones who drive me nuts... if you wanna start out on a turbo Busa because they make you look more masculine great... go at it... I think your an idiot... because 90% of people can't handle it and I wouldn't wanna put myself in a situation where one little slip up could get me into danger that quick... but it's your choice... but don't try to sell me on it.

Your reason for owning a 1000... great... it works for you... but you haven't tried to justify why you need the performance... I never said it was wrong... just that it's not one that makes sense for me.

[Dave]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

Thanks man! *Sniffle* my own long lost brother is against me *sniffle* and a fellow GSXR rider at that....oh the betrayal!

Of course the kicker was someone that owns a 1098 saying that buying a motorcycle based on performance/racing heritage is stupid!!!

in archren's defense it may just have been lust factor. lotsa folks willing to part with ridiculous coin for that red trellis frame alone. now if she had an s or an r it'd be a bit harder to defend lol