High Fructose Corn Syrup Causes More Weight Gain Than Sugar - Page 27

101lifts2 · 04-06-2010, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by KSGregman

I think you're missing my point.

Consuming a soda that contains HFCS is a CHOICE...an UNHEALTHY choice...and I don't feel sorry for people who want to play the victim for CHOOSING to do something unhealthy....consuming shit food....smoking...you name it.

It seems wicked juvenile to say "I'm gonna eat shit foods or smoke all I want" in one breath and then say "I'm fat or I have lung cancer and it's the fault of HFCS or cigarettes" in the next.

No...actually...it's YOUR fault for CHOOSING to consume things that you KNOW aren't good for you.

Beautiful...end of discussion.

101lifts2 · 04-06-2010, 10:28 PM

Apoc you cannot have it both ways....If you are for a Nationalized Healthcare system, then you have to control the sheep. You cannot say HFCS is OK, then pay for everyone's healthcare. That doesn't fly. So..in effect, Avatard has a more valid stance stating to pull it from the market since he is also for Nationalized Healthcare.

Me on the other hand, say fuck eat whatever you want (as long as the FDA keeps out toxic or cancer causing foods out), but I'm not paying for your healthcare bill, therefore get as fat as u like.

Avatard · 04-06-2010, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 101lifts2

Apoc you cannot have it both ways....If you are for a Nationalized Healthcare system, then you have to control the sheep. You cannot say HFCS is OK, then pay for everyone's healthcare. That doesn't fly. So..in effect, Avatard has a more valid stance stating to pull it from the market since he is also for Nationalized Healthcare system.

This was my point. Either the FDA controls everything, or not.

If it's NOT, and we instead go for "caveat emptor", then fine...but then I want my Ephedra, and my Sodium Cyclamate back.

shmike · 04-07-2010, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Avatard

But you would be wrong, because the government subsidizes the growth of corn. There's a reason why they're trying to shove it into every fucking orifice we have, they have shitloads of the crap.

Yes there is lots of it.

However...

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Originally Posted by Captain Morgan

If people start picking foods without HFCS, manufacturers will quit using it. But people are lazy and don't fucking care. Period.

It's how a free market works.

Apoc · 04-07-2010, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 101lifts2

Apoc you cannot have it both ways....If you are for a Nationalized Healthcare system, then you have to control the sheep. You cannot say HFCS is OK, then pay for everyone's healthcare. That doesn't fly. So..in effect, Avatard has a more valid stance stating to pull it from the market since he is also for Nationalized Healthcare.

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Im not American, so quite frankly, the healthcare arguement doesnt affect me. And im not against putting warning labels on HFCS, the problem is, people know the shit is unhealthy already. A warning wont make a difference.

But, banning it is not going to solve the obesity problem. Obese people, for the most part, have no desire to change themselves. You can pull it off the market, and make soda with sugar again. Its still not going to be good for them, and its not going to stop them from drinking the shit.

You know as well as I do, when you raise blood sugar levels, the body stores fat. Table sugar raises insulin levels, almost as quickly as HFCS does, and makes the body store fat. Taking in more calories then you can burn, causes the body to store fat. You can take HFCS off the market, its not going to change the fact that people are greedy, and will constantly overeat.

KSGregman · 04-07-2010, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Apoc

And im not against putting warning labels on HFCS, the problem is, people know the shit is unhealthy already. A warning wont make a difference.

Agreed...cigarettes are a PERFECT example. The warning essentially reads "Consuming this product will KILL you"...and people still smoke the fucking things like there is no tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by Apoc

You can take HFCS off the market, its not going to change the fact that people are greedy, and will constantly overeat.

Agreed...the source of the obesity problem does NOT lie with the food sources available in this country...it lies in the fact that people are not willing to take responsibility for themselves...for what they consume....and how much of it they consume.

Sean · 04-07-2010, 01:34 PM

The source of the problem is massive government subsidies on corn, making corn products cheap as hell. That's what allows them to put HFCS in damn near everything. The problem is not a nutritional one so much as a financial one.

Avatard · 04-07-2010, 03:42 PM

Thank you. No more calls, please...we have a winner.

Avatard · 04-07-2010, 04:03 PM

We are effectively subsidizing the erosion of public health. Seems like we're spending money only to make everyone sick, and cost us more money.

I'll say it again: Make Ethanol with it.

shmike · 04-07-2010, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Avatard

I'll say it again: Make Ethanol with it.

How about: Quit subsidizing it.

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101lifts2 WSB Champion Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Anaheim, CA Moto: 2009 Kawi ZX6R Posts: 5,570	Apoc you cannot have it both ways....If you are for a Nationalized Healthcare system, then you have to control the sheep. You cannot say HFCS is OK, then pay for everyone's healthcare. That doesn't fly. So..in effect, Avatard has a more valid stance stating to pull it from the market since he is also for Nationalized Healthcare. Me on the other hand, say fuck eat whatever you want (as long as the FDA keeps out toxic or cancer causing foods out), but I'm not paying for your healthcare bill, therefore get as fat as u like. __________________ Train Hard Ron Paul - 2012 Mark of Excellence GM Last edited by 101lifts2; 04-07-2010 at 01:27 AM..

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Avatard Crotch Rocket Curmudgeon Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Here to integrity Moto: Li'l red baby Ninja Posts: 7,482	We are effectively subsidizing the erosion of public health. Seems like we're spending money only to make everyone sick, and cost us more money. I'll say it again: Make Ethanol with it. __________________ Insert free thought here.

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04-07-2010, 01:34 PM	#267
Sean giggity Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: socal Moto: street, sumo & dirty Posts: 1,071	The source of the problem is massive government subsidies on corn, making corn products cheap as hell. That's what allows them to put HFCS in damn near everything. The problem is not a nutritional one so much as a financial one.