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HP makes speed, torque wins races...
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![]() I agree that your bike makes as much torque as mine earlier but it doesn't make "more" torque. In fact if you'd like to compare two bikes with the same CCs, I believe that I4 come out rather well torque-wise AND provide significantly more HP... You'd like to compare a GSXR 1000 vs a Ducati 1200 but what if you use a 'Busa's motor? The problem with comparing V twin bikes vs I4s is you guys ALWAYS cheat! ![]() ![]() |
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Well lets talk. First I wasnt referring to my Buell, more to the V Twin and V Fours like the RC31, Duc's, and RC51's that ruled WSBK for decades. The Duc WSBK effort when allowed to run without weight breaks or air restrictors kick serious I4 ass. The V fours did the same back in the day. Then they became twins too in form of the RC51s. Even GP racing was dominated by V twins and V 4s until the advent of the electronic rider aids.
secondly peak torque is an easy number to judge by in comparisons BUT the spread of torque and application of that torque is harder to measure. You have to look back at histories results in competition. I stand by my statement, HP brings speed to the table, Torque is what wins races consistently and decisively. Before the electronic rider aids big screaming I fours were good but were as likely to put you in the hospital as on the podium. Last, My Buell 1125R is a sporty street bike, That is about all. Sure it can suprise a GSXR squid from time to time, but the engine didnt really break new ground did it?
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All the WSBK twins were given displacement advantages and then either carried extra weight or restrictors or both, but somehow manage to win more championships than any other config. V4s, RC30 & 45, had little restrictions but were of same displacement as the I4s.
Basically my theory is proven by the fact that you have to handicap a twin or V4 by weight or restrictors in order to get a fair race with the I 4s. And you have to go no further than the Ape RSV4 to see what inherent advantages the V4 layout produces...
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