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Old 08-24-2009, 11:43 AM   #1
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Default Replacing Solenoid?

Here's the deal:

Bike wont start.

Replaced the battery as it appeared the battery was just old and losing juice. Still wont start.

Turn the key, lights come on, the gauges prime, fuel pump primes, but when I punch the starter, I get absolutely nothing. (Other than the F1 light and some unrelated clicking). Kickstand is up, clutch engaged, tried in both neutral and in gear, so that ruled out the safety switch.

I stopped by the local shop to get their take, they think its the solenoid.

So, how hard is it to replace this on my own?
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Old 08-24-2009, 11:47 AM   #2
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I don't know on a bike. On a cage it's super easy. So i can't imagine it would be hard on a bike. There isn't much to them.
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Old 08-24-2009, 11:49 AM   #3
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Sadly, I havent worked on the bike in ages and am totally brain dead about it. Im ashamed.

I am looking at the manuals website to see what I can find out as well.
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Old 08-24-2009, 11:50 AM   #4
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It is incredibly easy.

My last Gixxer was older than yours but the solenoid was under the seat, iirc.

I wouldn't even consider taking it to a shop, you can do it yourself and it will be a great confidence booster if you are new to turning wrenches.
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Old 08-24-2009, 12:03 PM   #5
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Here's the deal:

Bike wont start.

Replaced the battery as it appeared the battery was just old and losing juice. Still wont start.

Turn the key, lights come on, the gauges prime, fuel pump primes, but when I punch the starter, I get absolutely nothing. (Other than the F1 light and some unrelated clicking). Kickstand is up, clutch engaged, tried in both neutral and in gear, so that ruled out the safety switch.

I stopped by the local shop to get their take, they think its the solenoid.

So, how hard is it to replace this on my own?
Probably pretty easy to replace it. I found some posts on gixxer.com with people having similar issues when they lose their stator too on the k6 and k7.
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Old 08-24-2009, 02:30 PM   #6
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Piece of cake - there is also a fuse located on it which could be blown (hadn't seen that before).

It's under the seat, mounted behind the battery & under a plastic cover, iirc. Here is a picture of it (item 1), though it doesn't show its mounting location.

http://www.mrcycles.com/fiche_sectio...006&fveh=11387

After exposing it & checking the fuse, you can also check that it's receiving a 12+ signal to rule out any other component, and then 'jumper' the starter terminals to verify that the relay is not functioning but the starter is. If you can use the help walking through it (since Kathy and I have basically identical bikes), just call (#s PM'd).

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Old 08-24-2009, 03:03 PM   #7
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Here's the deal:

Bike wont start.


I stopped by the local shop to get their take, they think its the solenoid.
They think it's the solenoid? The solenoid can be jumped (very carefully) by any shadetree mechanic. Actually, my brother showed me how to do it when I was 10 years old.

Anyway most of the time, the solenoid is not the problem. Usually it's the wiring, connections, or starter. Use a digital voltmeter and your manual. If it's the starter, they can easily be taken apart and cleaned. If it is the solenoid, it's easily replaced (depending on where it is).
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Old 08-24-2009, 06:40 PM   #8
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Hubby's response - go to the Kawasaki dealer

Did the tip over switch get tripped for some reason?

Edit - probably isn't the switch if pump is priming.

Ignition sensor?

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Old 08-25-2009, 06:51 AM   #9
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Here's what I would do if I was there. Jumper the solenoid and try to start it, if it starts then you know that it's the solenoid and you can just buy a new solenoid and be good to go again. If it doesn't start then I (emphasis on the I) would take the starter out and connect each terminal straight to the battery and see if it spins, if it doesn't then you have a bad starter, if it does spin than you a problem with your wiring (which I don't think likely given that I've torn that bike almost completely apart). Based on the symptoms that you mentioned it sounds like the starter solenoid gave up and it should be under you seat.
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Old 08-25-2009, 11:56 AM   #10
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That pretty much sums up what I was thinking. I wouldn't expect a solenoid to quit without at least a little warning typically, but the onboard fuse may have blown due to the resistance-drop/amperage-spike caused by 'shorted' windings.
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