"Evacuate everyone South of that line."

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by Trip

The problem with the ridge cut was people were driving all over it. It was mainly ice lightly covered in snow. The plow trucks dumped a bunch of sand down. Trucks were getting stuck going up it.

Snow covered ice is the second worst winter driving condition. Water covered ice is the worst and on one occasion I slid something like 75 feet on it, without the brakes or steering wheel having the least effect at roughly 10 MPH. Went right over a foot tall concrete curb. I felt like a curling stone. Miraculously there was zero damage to the car. My pride was in somewhat worse condition.

That was about 20 years ago and not the sort of situation that we see much, up here.

Originally Posted by Particle Man

Most of NY is (get this) hills and mountains... I love it when people from the south think that NY is only NYC

NEW YORK CITY!

Isn't that where they make that salsa stuff?

I can't remember; are you up in the Watertown area, or closer to Syracuse?

[Gas Man]

Originally Posted by CasterTroy

I'd like to see YOU drive on a 1/2" of solid ice when your state has no salt, sand, and more 1976 caprice classic on 26's trying to get to the social security office to pick up their check than you can shake a stick at!

See ATL

It's easy to look down off a thrown of hard packed snow that even a baboon could drive in and judge!


Ya bastard

Hey this year.. right after NYE... we got 16" of snow then temps into the negatives and wind chills of -45. They salted and when their slush was on the road and the temps dropped... Everything turned to ice. The highways were a sheet of ice and the spots that weren't, were still a road of brail ice (not really any better). The highwas were down to a crawl.. I'm talking average speed 20mph.

The bottom line is that your southern states aren't prepared for it. Nor do any of the drivers have the skill set.

Certainly there are the ones that Trip speaks of, but those are everywhere. The 4x4 anything are usually the worse offenders. But that being said, there are the few that, like Turbo said, are great in the snow. My wife's new fusion WITH snow tires is AMAZING in the snow. I bet it's better in the snow than most trucks.

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

"Could I give you some money and we forget about reporting it to insurance?"

WOW... how many times did that happen before you got the camera?

[Turbo Ghost]

Originally Posted by Particle Man

Most of NY is (get this) hills and mountains... I love it when people from the south think that NY is only NYC

Yup! I took vacation several years ago and went mountain biking in the Adirondacs up around the finger lakes in Old Forge.

We only refer to NYC because the rest of the state has some sense about it. No sense making fun of people that know what they're doing! The city folks however.....

[fasternyou929]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

Welllllllllllll...... that the globe, as a whole, would get warmer, which creates more chaotic systems, that result in more severe weather and disruption of traditional weather patterns. The problem with the way that the whole thing was approached, is that scientists tend to forget that regular people don't speak or understand thing like, well, scientists. That's one reason that the whole bloody thing has been rebadged as "climate change"; people didn't understand what the term "global warming" really meant.

It might help if they didn't blame money-making scapegoats, too. People made a good few dollars off the premise of "offsetting your carbon footprint".

[CasterTroy]

[Papa_Complex]

On the other hand you have pictures from a 30 car collision on Highway 401, about an hour east of Toronto:

http://www.intelligencer.ca/2014/01/...-near-brighton

[the chi]

Im in Florida. I've got my bottled water, bread and I'm holed up in the house. I won't leave till it's safe.

Wait. I live in Central Florida, it's 80 degrees and these jerks can't even drive in rain. You should see the pandemonium that is North Florida right now. I hear they've shut eeeeeverything down. Smh.

On a serious note, I read somewhere not long ago (can't remember where) that the earth actually does have these "cycles" where it gets a lil colder for awhile, then a lil warmer, and it does it periodically and the world hasn't ended yet. And if Global Warming is such an issue, why is the ice thicker in Antarctica now than it was BEFORE global warming...?

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by fasternyou929

It might help if they didn't blame money-making scapegoats, too. People made a good few dollars off the premise of "offsetting your carbon footprint".

Yes, some people made some serious cash on that feel good, do nothing crap. If there's a problem then you fix it. You don't give people a placebo that makes them feel good about waste.

Makes me wish that I had a piece of land and some spruce saplings.

Originally Posted by the chi

Im in Florida. I've got my bottled water, bread and I'm holed up in the house. I won't leave till it's safe.

Wait. I live in Central Florida, it's 80 degrees and these jerks can't even drive in rain. You should see the pandemonium that is North Florida right now. I hear they've shut eeeeeverything down. Smh.

On a serious note, I read somewhere not long ago (can't remember where) that the earth actually does have these "cycles" where it gets a lil colder for awhile, then a lil warmer, and it does it periodically and the world hasn't ended yet. And if Global Warming is such an issue, why is the ice thicker in Antarctica now than it was BEFORE global warming...?

There used to be a very good website called "Changing the Climate", that was run by a group of climatologists, that debunked a ton of those talking points. Unfortunately it appears to be gone now. They talked about things like how a higher global mean temperature doesn't mean less precipitation, how people will point at one pole and ignore the other, the temperature "hockey stick", and a lot of other stuff.

And when it comes to bad driving, we've got that sewn up. This was this morning:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWEGnr9JEhc

[Gas Man]

You fuckers in the south can't handle the snow... PERIOD!

Papa... what did the white car say to you about it?

[CasterTroy]

Originally Posted by Gas Man

You fuckers in the south can't handle the snow... PERIOD!

I'd like to see YOU drive on a 1/2" of solid ice when your state has no salt, sand, and more 1976 caprice classic on 26's trying to get to the social security office to pick up their check than you can shake a stick at!

See ATL

It's easy to look down off a thrown of hard packed snow that even a baboon could drive in and judge!


Ya bastard