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Old 11-21-2009, 07:44 AM   #11
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Will always wear a helmet.

Going to mandate a helmet law? Then make it full face or nothing.
Half helmet wearers only get half the discount since only half their head is protected. I'm not interested in paying for cosmetic surgery to replace your chin.
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Old 11-21-2009, 07:50 AM   #12
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I went without a helmet for bike week

We were 1 mile from main street and we didn't ride over 20 mph

But when we went anywhere other than main street, or to Ormond beach we wore them

I'd never do it anywhere else
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Old 11-21-2009, 09:29 AM   #13
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I trust insurance companies as far as I can comfortably spit a rat, which is to say, not very far.

However, I do not believe in mandatory helmet, or seat belt laws, for anyone over he age of 21. It's your head, do with it what you will. If you've come to the conclusion that you're invincible, go for it.

Insurance companies charge higher premiums for young drivers, old drivers, smokers, and other "high risk" groups. I don't agree with all of their reasoning, but if you're not smart enough to wear a helmet, that's on you.

In short, I believe in charging people based on their own decisions.

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This.

I wear a helmet 100% of the time I am on a bike, as do all my passengers. That will always be so, helmet law or no helmet law.

Still, I do so because I choose to, not because the government tells me to. I strongly oppose helmet laws, seatbelt laws, and all other nanny state "this is for your own protetion" laws.
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Old 11-21-2009, 09:47 AM   #14
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I trust insurance companies as far as I can comfortably spit a rat, which is to say, not very far.

However, I do not believe in mandatory helmet, or seat belt laws, for anyone over he age of 21. It's your head, do with it what you will. If you've come to the conclusion that you're invincible, go for it.

Insurance companies charge higher premiums for young drivers, old drivers, smokers, and other "high risk" groups. I don't agree with all of their reasoning, but if you're not smart enough to wear a helmet, that's on you.

In short, I believe in charging people based on their own decisions.

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Old 11-21-2009, 10:41 AM   #15
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I trust insurance companies as far as I can comfortably spit a rat, which is to say, not very far.

However, I do not believe in mandatory helmet, or seat belt laws, for anyone over he age of 21. It's your head, do with it what you will. If you've come to the conclusion that you're invincible, go for it.

Insurance companies charge higher premiums for young drivers, old drivers, smokers, and other "high risk" groups. I don't agree with all of their reasoning, but if you're not smart enough to wear a helmet, that's on you.

In short, I believe in charging people based on their own decisions.

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I agree... HOWEVER... we have to remember that driving/riding is a privilege and not a right, and as such... they have the right to tell us what is required to exercise that privilege.

same as requirements to meet emissions, have headlights, safety glass, and mirrors.


I'd raise your age to about 25 though. I deal with 18-30 year olds (mostly 18-25y/o) daily... and the difference between a 18y/o and a 22y/o in case of maturity isn't much. >25 still have their idiots... but seems to drop off significantly IMO.

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Old 11-21-2009, 11:07 AM   #16
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I dont believe in mandatory helmet laws, but I dont leave the house without mine.

As far as insurance is concerned, if someone agrees to wear a helmet and doesnt and is hurt, I think they should deny coverage. They broke the agreement to ride safely in exchange for that discount, they obviously dont care to keep their insurance.

The military is big on that one, get busted in non approved gear or lack thereof, including helmet, they refuse to pay and may terminate you. Kid back in Florida thought he was a stunna, cracked his head on the curb, military did both. Kicked him out and left him to pay all his medical bills.
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Old 11-21-2009, 11:23 AM   #17
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I dont believe in mandatory helmet laws, but I dont leave the house without mine.

As far as insurance is concerned, if someone agrees to wear a helmet and doesnt and is hurt, I think they should deny coverage. They broke the agreement to ride safely in exchange for that discount, they obviously dont care to keep their insurance.

The military is big on that one, get busted in non approved gear or lack thereof, including helmet, they refuse to pay and may terminate you. Kid back in Florida thought he was a stunna, cracked his head on the curb, military did both. Kicked him out and left him to pay all his medical bills
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not only that... if you pass... they can deny your death benefits... ie no SGLI passed on to your kids/spouse, no GI Bill passed on, medical bills not paid, not allowed to be burred in Arlington, ect.

and that can be for something as simple as not wearing reflective material at all times... (since changed to reflective at night, brightly colored in daylight)
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Old 11-21-2009, 11:29 AM   #18
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I wore one when I rode with Dad because I was <18. Once 18 I never wore one, until I met Erik. He wouldn't let me ride without one so I had to go buy, not I don't go without. If I am at the track and going to tech or something, then I don't wear it and it feels weird as hell. Kind of like not wearing ming my seat belt in the car, just missing something.
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Old 11-21-2009, 11:42 AM   #19
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not only that... if you pass... they can deny your death benefits... ie no SGLI passed on to your kids/spouse, no GI Bill passed on, medical bills not paid, not allowed to be burred in Arlington, ect.

and that can be for something as simple as not wearing reflective material at all times... (since changed to reflective at night, brightly colored in daylight)
Ah, and it differs for each base I guess too. Those rules were what I was familiar with, but Moody just made it a requirement that you must wear a gay reflective vest AT ALL TIMES when you are on base (I think off too).
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Old 11-21-2009, 12:01 PM   #20
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Helmet Laws Suck!
But I won't ride without one. When I ride in states without a helmet law, I still wear mine and all my gear, but that is my choice.
I like the freedom to choose, but I've landed on my head enough to
know which choice is right for me. I would be a different person today if I had not been wearing a helmet on several occasions in the past...
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