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Old 11-08-2012, 12:14 AM   #21
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4 doors with a stick:

Mazda 6 or 3
Ford Focus
Most Subaru's
VW's
most Kia's

I'm sure there are more, but that's what I can think of.
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Old 11-08-2012, 03:21 AM   #22
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Narrow it down further... demand RWD or AWD.
Admit it...we're all so over FWD.
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Old 11-08-2012, 07:07 AM   #23
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Narrow it down further... demand RWD or AWD.
Admit it...we're all so over FWD.
People should be "over" AWD in the South as well. OK there are a couple days of freezing rain, but come on. Saps fuel economy.
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Old 11-08-2012, 07:43 AM   #24
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I would also suggest Subaru, but since you have ruled them out, then I have no idea what to recommend. Everything else I was looking at, manual and AWD was out of my price range.
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Old 11-08-2012, 08:57 AM   #25
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think lee is in the same boat we're in

wants a nice sedan, has some status, but is still sporty, and reliable

TL AWD w/ advanced pkg, Awd is supposed to handle better the plain FWD
Cadillac ATS
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Old 11-08-2012, 09:34 AM   #26
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Damn you, Cadillac. Why did you have to offer the 6-speed manual on the ATS ONLY mated to the 2.0 Turbo?

I have to say, I'm liking the looks and specs of this car. Not sure what the wife would think, tho.

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Old 11-08-2012, 09:43 AM   #27
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Damn you, Cadillac. Why did you have to offer the 6-speed manual on the ATS ONLY mated to the 2.0 Turbo?

I have to say, I'm liking the looks and specs of this car. Not sure what the wife would think, tho.

The new Caddy's are lookers all around...
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you be the gineau pig, and buy one first

yeah D loves the specs, we're not serious to buy till next summer so no rush for us.

she still really wants the G37S convert IPL pkg., but it ain't too practical. but she and the kids would look good pulling up to school top down.....lol
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you be the gineau pig, and buy one first

yeah D loves the specs, we're not serious to buy till next summer so no rush for us.

she still really wants the G37S convert IPL pkg., but it ain't too practical. but she and the kids would look good pulling up to school top down.....lol
Like I said at the start - not buying right away. Just trying to see what manuals are out there that we should be considering. Hoping by then any known issues will be out there.
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A 4-cyl in a Cadillac?
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