Interesting...

[Mr Lefty]

I'm mostly European... but I'm like 1/50th native american...

does that count?

[Dnyce]

i agree with you ebbs, to a certain extent-but i believe that all that stuff was started to gain some recognition in the first place. if you see a romantic comedy, drama, whatever, with two blacks as the main stars, its automatically a "black" movie, and instantly harder for it to be credible, whether its good or bad. black history month...well thats a no brainer, dont see how thats seperation or segregation, its just trying to bring to light the stuff the history books "accidently" omitted.

the game really seems to me to highlight the history of the colleges-which i believe were started/founded because blacks werent readily admitted to college, when and if they had the means to get there. as far as i know, u can be any race and go to one of those schools.

you've mentioned this once or twice before, and id be more than willing to discuss it in deeper detail if you want

Originally Posted by TIGGER

We of the Superior Mulatto Attributes Racial Type (SMART) do not recognize being part Italian and part German as being a halfbreed...

You must be some combination of these main types; Indian (includes hispanics), Black,Caucasian,Oriental or Middle-Eastern. Ha I just invented the NEW racism!

oriental's a fuckin noodle you racist bastard, should have said asian.


sweet, the new racism is cool

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by Dnyce

i agree with you ebbs, to a certain extent-but i believe that all that stuff was started to gain some recognition in the first place. if you see a romantic comedy, drama, whatever, with two blacks as the main stars, its automatically a "black" movie, and instantly harder for it to be credible, whether its good or bad. black history month...well thats a no brainer, dont see how thats seperation or segregation, its just trying to bring to light the stuff the history books "accidently" omitted.

the game really seems to me to highlight the history of the colleges-which i believe were started/founded because blacks werent readily admitted to college, when and if they had the means to get there. as far as i know, u can be any race and go to one of those schools.

you've mentioned this once or twice before, and id be more than willing to discuss it in deeper detail if you want









oriental's a fuckin noodle you racist bastard, should have said asian.


sweet, the new racism is cool

Shit! I almost said Asian but went with Oriental. When did they start selling Oriental noodles at Mama-san's?

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by Ebbs15

I'm mostly European... but I'm like 1/50th native american...

does that count?

If you get a tan,I'll sneak you in the back door....

[Mr Lefty]

Originally Posted by Dnyce

i agree with you ebbs, to a certain extent-but i believe that all that stuff was started to gain some recognition in the first place. if you see a romantic comedy, drama, whatever, with two blacks as the main stars, its automatically a "black" movie, and instantly harder for it to be credible, whether its good or bad. black history month...well thats a no brainer, dont see how thats seperation or segregation, its just trying to bring to light the stuff the history books "accidently" omitted.

the game really seems to me to highlight the history of the colleges-which i believe were started/founded because blacks werent readily admitted to college, when and if they had the means to get there. as far as i know, u can be any race and go to one of those schools.

you've mentioned this once or twice before, and id be more than willing to discuss it in deeper detail if you want

Yeah true... you have a point about the black history month. and even... though I don't completely agree... the black movie awards. but I'll touch more on the movie awards things in a bit...

As far as this game goes, and BET, and several magazines... they're not targeting an audience by subject matter... but by race.

For this game I understand... Grambling gets over looked in NCAA... but so does North Dakota State. they play in a lower division (college football championship Subdivision FCS). one that just doesn't have a HUGE NATIONAL fan base, like most in the Football Bowl Subdivision do.... the market for this game is purely race driven.

I think it's a far stretch to say this game was created to highlight the history of these schools. yeah they may have little snippets of facts about the schools like NCAA 09 does... but with the two main parts of the game being football and a drum line competition I can't see it being all that informative or enlightening about the history.

As for the black movie awards... I can understand what you mean by the movie gets the "black movie" label if it has two black lead stars. but then why not just create a movie awards that unbiased? why does it only include the black movies? your fighting injustice with segregation. know what I mean?

Don't get me wrong... I think there is still a very large injustice for the black community... along with many, many other minorities... but these just perpetuate the division of the communities.

Originally Posted by TIGGER

If you get a tan,I'll sneak you in the back door....

I want nothing to do with you and your back door

[Dnyce]

Originally Posted by Ebbs15

Yeah true... you have a point about the black history month. and even... though I don't completely agree... the black movie awards. but I'll touch more on the movie awards things in a bit...

As far as this game goes, and BET, and several magazines... they're not targeting an audience by subject matter... but by race.

For this game I understand... Grambling gets over looked in NCAA... but so does North Dakota State. they play in a lower division (college football championship Subdivision FCS). one that just doesn't have a HUGE NATIONAL fan base, like most in the Football Bowl Subdivision do.... the market for this game is purely race driven.

I think it's a far stretch to say this game was created to highlight the history of these schools. yeah they may have little snippets of facts about the schools like NCAA 09 does... but with the two main parts of the game being football and a drum line competition I can't see it being all that informative or enlightening about the history.

As for the black movie awards... I can understand what you mean by the movie gets the "black movie" label if it has two black lead stars. but then why not just create a movie awards that unbiased? why does it only include the black movies? your fighting injustice with segregation. know what I mean?

Don't get me wrong... I think there is still a very large injustice for the black community... along with many, many other minorities... but these just perpetuate the division of the communities.

i cant argue the game much, i havent played it-have no interest to. i guess when i said highlight the history, i was more referring to the history between the two colleges, not necessarily the history of blacks struggle to get an education way back in the day. bottom line for the game-dude went to one of those colleges, now has the money to make a game that shows what he felt HIS college experience was. this is probably a cult thing, played by their frats and alumni and crap. im neutral on the game i guess, dont bother me, but seems like kinda a double standard blacks slip by on as a result of their fucked up past in this country.

since we agree on blk history month, i'll skip to the movies. i understand what you mean, it should be an unbiased movie awards. and it should be called the oscars lol. there shouldnt be a need for a black movie awards, but since there is(nowhere near as much as there used to be a need for it, but still) i dont see a need for it to be unbiased. the whole point is to bring to light black actors and actresses that are otherwise overlooked. theres a latino movie awards as well. makes perfect sense, except for the fact that there shouldnt be a need for it.

as far as the magazines, products, etc-they arent marketed to race as much as they are marketed to a demographic. theres a bunch of whites , hispanics, etc etc that read XXL, the source, rides....but ebony, jet, and a few others that are marketed to black women because u rarely if ever saw a black face in vogue magazine or whatever chicks read back then. of course women want to see women that look like them, so someone saw that and made some money off it. thats a bit of a tangent-but basically i dont see it as fighting an injustice with segregation, although i can easily see how it can be viewed in that light-i see it more like they're sayin look at us, we're the same as you when you get down to it, so dont look down at us.

atleast in the beginning. now the only color is money. market black stuff to blacks, and the money u save by not trying to get the crossover effect turns into profit. could even be the same product-car commercials are a bitch, same car, but in a "black" setting, or a "white" setting, depending on what channel u see it on.

also-its bet. therefore any award show they do is black, its in the freakin title lol, black entertainment television-they have white actors/actresses/artists on there, hispanics, etc. its just predominently black, like the country music awards are predominently white. just a dif name.

but when u get down to it, i think vh1, mtv, cmt, and bet are all on the same team when it comes to ownership anyway

[Mr Lefty]

oh most definatly... I agree that you'll see this issue on both sides... it's not just the black community separating themselsves... but it seems counter productive to what was being preached in the civil rights movement.

and ok... on the game I can see your point about the history between schools... not history of the schools... still not completely sold on it though.

and yes I can completely understand market it to your intended audence... and I guess I shouldn't really blame a community for the marketing campaign of a couple magizines and TV channels/shows... but again... it's you'd think after fighting so hard for civil rights, they'd not want to segregate themselves.

it just breeds ignorance and intollerance.

[Dnyce]

Originally Posted by Ebbs15

oh most definatly... I agree that you'll see this issue on both sides... it's not just the black community separating themselsves... but it seems counter productive to what was being preached in the civil rights movement.

and ok... on the game I can see your point about the history between schools... not history of the schools... still not completely sold on it though.

and yes I can completely understand market it to your intended audence... and I guess I shouldn't really blame a community for the marketing campaign of a couple magizines and TV channels/shows... but again... it's you'd think after fighting so hard for civil rights, they'd not want to segregate themselves.

it just breeds ignorance and intollerance.

im not sold on the game either, just saying how it appeared to me

and heres the problem-that was a different generation at the height of the civil rights movement. different priorities, wants, values, all that crap. the civil rights generation would be mad as fuck, id say progress is like a gd 10-15yrs behind... the whole govt sponsored crack influx didnt help much either, but thats another story for another day.

gd discussion

[Mr Lefty]

Originally Posted by Dnyce

im not sold on the game either, just saying how it appeared to me

and heres the problem-that was a different generation at the height of the civil rights movement. different priorities, wants, values, all that crap. the civil rights generation would be mad as fuck, id say progress is like a gd 10-15yrs behind... the whole govt sponsored crack influx didnt help much either, but thats another story for another day.

gd discussion

Very true... though look at our government and society... how far off from what our forefathers envisioned do you think we are?

I'm no MLK but I do hope one day shit like this is a distant memory... but the realist in me says it won't happen in time for me or my children's children to see it.