New Florida Governor wants unemployment recipients to do community service

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by pauldun170

Fuck him...
I pay for that shit out of my taxes. I'm not taking "handouts" (if I were collecting unemployment) anymore than me getting a "handout" from the insurance company if my car is involved in an accident.

So now he wants to punish everybody for the abuses of a few by turning everyone who is unfortunate enough to be unemployed into slave labor for the state?

Sorry thats some Soviet era Communist bullshit right there.

This but its not "taxes" your employer pays a premium to the unemployment commissionfor every worker he employs. BTW for those that wish to punish the employer, the premium is based on your past record of lay offs. Excessive lay offs=higher premiums=punishment.

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by Amorok

Here's a thought, if you're in the program working, maybe one of the details you draw is working in a daycare (under supervision.) Maybe you'll be driving a bus. We're already giving these people money, so involving them in providing service isn't too much of a stretch.

I know you said under supervision but you want disgruntled laid off workers watching your kids......really?

BTW driving a bus actually requires training, licences, etc. Besides, last I looked, the public schools aren't looking for a million bus drivers.

[pauldun170]

Originally Posted by Amber Lamps

This but its not "taxes" your employer pays a premium to the unemployment commission for every worker he employs. BTW for those that wish to punish the employer, the premium is based on your past record of lay offs. Excessive lay offs=higher premiums=punishment.

Oh...
So the employer pays the tax.

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by azoomm

It doesn't.

I've had community service and yes it does.... If you got laid off do you think they'll find you a job as a hand model? Besides, let's say you were a secretary and they could find you a cs position in an office. Ever work with a temp? How about one that's getting paid less than half their normal salary ? How about one that's being forced to work there by the state? Oh yea she'd be a peach...

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by nhgunnut

That reflects only your view. Let this become the norm and no one judges. The view that manual labor is somehow degrading is the result of our Decades of ever increasing entitlements.
This is no different than the Civilian Conservation Corp of FDR era.

There ya go, let's get the unemployed together and force them to build stuff like roads, dams, bridges...wait don't we have people doing these jobs already? What exactly happens to them? I didn't notice the construction companies placing ads for a million workers...

Yep I'd love to be on a construction site with bunch of nimrods that don't know what they are doing and that don't want to be there... No possibility of accidents there....

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by pauldun170

Oh...
So the employer pays the tax.

Okay you obviously want to call it a tax...I guess I pay a tax to State Farm as well....

[pauldun170]

Originally Posted by Amber Lamps

Okay you obviously want to call it a tax...I guess I pay a tax to State Farm as well....

State Farm is private entity that charges a premium for its service.
You do not have to subscribe to that service.

Uncle Sam forces employers to pay into a government run service. I'm going to go out and say that is the definition of a tax.

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by pauldun170

State Farm is private entity that charges a premium for its service.
You do not have to subscribe to that service.

Uncle Sam forces employers to pay into a government run service. I'm going to go out and say that is the definition of a tax.

So the government doesn't "force" us to have car insurance? Oh I thought that they did....my bad.

[azoomm]

Originally Posted by Amber Lamps

I've had community service and yes it does....

It's only because you're black....

[pauldun170]

Originally Posted by Amber Lamps

So the government doesn't "force" us to have car insurance? Oh I thought that they did....my bad.

You don't want to waste time on definitions....
Little silly to be arguing over the definition of a tax and the definition of a premium.