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Old 03-09-2009, 11:57 PM   #41
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Can't stop it... never will. Only thing you can do is ride w/ your highbeams on during the day & wear a jacket like this one....





Don't mind the Shitty McCrappy Bike. It's just an old Suzuki GN125 range scoot. Kinda fun actually
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Old 03-10-2009, 12:03 AM   #42
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I have reflective tape lining the edge of my windscreen, on the rear of the bike, and all over my helmet. As I am approaching intersections or places where people are turning in and out, I move from side to side within my lane to make myself more visable. Hopefully it helps.
I've always heard people talk about getting high viz yellow. I am no longer a believer in wearing it for motorcycle riding. Working for a Sub of AT&T we get sent out on broke poles. On this one right here (Poles got yanked down at noon and we left at 5:30am) I remember one of the AT&T boss men coming down the road. The road was also shut down by police so we could roam wherever we wanted too. My partner (Big 6'7" guy in one of the pics) had on his yellow DOT class 2 high viz vest on. Camera had a night setting so it's darker than it looks. But the Bell man said that the only thing he saw of my buddy and anyone was the reflective strips. That included the AT&T orange vests.

Reflective stickers are the key. As for high viz yellow. We have a saying about that at our work. The Yellow is so they can find the body after it's been hit.
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Old 03-10-2009, 09:08 AM   #43
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Reflective vests help...but people are still not gonna pay attention if they dont want to. I had co-worker who was shooting the scene of an accident. Flashing lights everywhere, police cars, orange cones everywhere.

Some lady, stone drunk, fucking plowed into him. Almost killed him. He spent weeks in the hospital.

Some people just AREN'T gonna pay attention.
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Old 03-10-2009, 09:11 AM   #44
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unless theres a signal there, it appears the u turn part is now very similar to the "cursed left turn"
Yes more often than not there is a signal at the u-turn point.
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Old 03-10-2009, 09:30 AM   #45
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I've had 'em do it when I was wearing a yellow jacket and riding a yellow bike and just for contrast wearing a bright red helmet. color doesn't matter.

idiots in cages will always be idiots in cages. Best "cure" is to indeed treat every cage on the road as though it's being driven by a complete moron who was barely able to feed themselves this morning. As they say in training courses always, ALWAYS be looking for the exit strategy. It sucks and yes it takes away a little from the enjoyment of the ride but we are the ones at risk, and the only ones who care about us is ourselves.
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Old 03-10-2009, 10:43 AM   #46
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I've had 'em do it when I was wearing a yellow jacket and riding a yellow bike and just for contrast wearing a bright red helmet. color doesn't matter.

idiots in cages will always be idiots in cages. Best "cure" is to indeed treat every cage on the road as though it's being driven by a complete moron who was barely able to feed themselves this morning. As they say in training courses always, ALWAYS be looking for the exit strategy. It sucks and yes it takes away a little from the enjoyment of the ride but we are the ones at risk, and the only ones who care about us is ourselves.
That's kinda where I'm at.. I always treat cagers like they're all out to get me.

But at the same time.. us motorcyclists are still human. Even if we're on top of the game 99% of the time, there's still that 1% where maybe we're looking in one mirror and the idiot barrelling down on us is coming at us from the other direction.. things happen SO fast, and we, as imperfect beings, have only so much in the way of resources as far as reaction time and training to help mitigate the odds.

I've had heated discussions with people who didn't believe in taking the MSF more than the first time.. I for one don't see how it can *hurt* to refresh one's training, and occasionally practice things (panic stops, quick maneuvers, etc.), especially when you have a new bike. But that being said... all it does is lower the chances, it doesn't get rid of the danger altogether.

It's one of many choices we make in life.. I think people who jump out of perfectly good air planes or jump off rock cliffs are nucking futs (and I'm sure people think the same of me for riding bikes or being in the military), but it's something that they enjoy that fulfills them. Motorcycling is that way for me. I understand the risks, I've been in an accident that could have been fatal if I hadn't had friends who were able to call for help right away.. but *my* personal choice (being as I don't really have the means by which to ride on a track whenever I want... *coughZoomiecough* Love ya... mean it ) is to continue riding in spite of the risks.

It's like anything else in life. You pays your money, you takes your chances...
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Old 03-10-2009, 01:26 PM   #47
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that's kinda where i'm at.. I always treat cagers like they're all out to get me.

But at the same time.. Us motorcyclists are still human. Even if we're on top of the game 99% of the time, there's still that 1% where maybe we're looking in one mirror and the idiot barrelling down on us is coming at us from the other direction.. Things happen so fast, and we, as imperfect beings, have only so much in the way of resources as far as reaction time and training to help mitigate the odds.

I've had heated discussions with people who didn't believe in taking the msf more than the first time.. I for one don't see how it can *hurt* to refresh one's training, and occasionally practice things (panic stops, quick maneuvers, etc.), especially when you have a new bike. But that being said... All it does is lower the chances, it doesn't get rid of the danger altogether.

It's one of many choices we make in life.. I think people who jump out of perfectly good air planes or jump off rock cliffs are nucking futs (and i'm sure people think the same of me for riding bikes or being in the military), but it's something that they enjoy that fulfills them. Motorcycling is that way for me. I understand the risks, i've been in an accident that could have been fatal if i hadn't had friends who were able to call for help right away.. But *my* personal choice (being as i don't really have the means by which to ride on a track whenever i want... *coughzoomiecough* love ya... Mean it :d ) is to continue riding in spite of the risks.

It's like anything else in life. You pays your money, you takes your chances...
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Old 03-11-2009, 12:06 AM   #48
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Don't mind the Shitty McCrappy Bike. It's just an old Suzuki GN125 range scoot. Kinda fun actually
don't bust on those, they're fun as hell to ride.
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Old 03-11-2009, 12:43 AM   #49
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That's kinda where I'm at.. I always treat cagers like they're all out to get me.

But at the same time.. us motorcyclists are still human. Even if we're on top of the game 99% of the time, there's still that 1% where maybe we're looking in one mirror and the idiot barrelling down on us is coming at us from the other direction.. things happen SO fast, and we, as imperfect beings, have only so much in the way of resources as far as reaction time and training to help mitigate the odds.

I've had heated discussions with people who didn't believe in taking the MSF more than the first time.. I for one don't see how it can *hurt* to refresh one's training, and occasionally practice things (panic stops, quick maneuvers, etc.), especially when you have a new bike. But that being said... all it does is lower the chances, it doesn't get rid of the danger altogether.

It's one of many choices we make in life.. I think people who jump out of perfectly good air planes or jump off rock cliffs are nucking futs (and I'm sure people think the same of me for riding bikes or being in the military), but it's something that they enjoy that fulfills them. Motorcycling is that way for me. I understand the risks, I've been in an accident that could have been fatal if I hadn't had friends who were able to call for help right away.. but *my* personal choice (being as I don't really have the means by which to ride on a track whenever I want... *coughZoomiecough* Love ya... mean it ) is to continue riding in spite of the risks.

It's like anything else in life. You pays your money, you takes your chances...
When have you known me to ever just accept something for what it is?

I'm letting a marketing firm look at it from their own perspective. I don't want to tell them how to figure it out. I want to see what they come up with.

Yes, I do ride at the track.

But, I have a daughter that is about to get her license. She is more precious to me than my own life... I'm out there for her.
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Old 03-11-2009, 09:55 AM   #50
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modulating headlights
bright clothing
flashing hi beams
moving in the lane, so your headlights draw attention
covering the brakes
assume they are going to turn
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