RSV4 vs BMW S1000rr

[marko138]

Originally Posted by Amber Lamps

Okay, well what is your point? I made some basic ASSumptions as far as ergos, power, brakes, etc between the bike you own and the two Euro bikes... other than ASSuming anything, where did I go wrong?

Do they make more power? Of course. But the vibes...that you are wrong about. I'm making a full thread right now. I'll explain.

[smileyman]

Sportrider or Motorcyclist one or the other reviewed the 1125R head to head against the Duc 1198 and KTM RC8 and it didnt fair so bad...I'll dig for the issue.

Ergos are much better than most SS bikes I have ridden, but since I have not sat or ridden a BMW or Aprilia V4 i cannot say for certain.


I know the 1125 R leaves a bad taste in the mouths of those who havent ridden it.
bad impression on those r

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by smileyman

Sportrider or Motorcyclist one or the other reviewed the 1125R head to head against the Duc 1198 and KTM RC8 and it didnt fair so bad...I'll dig for the issue.

Ergos are much better than most SS bikes I have ridden, but since I have not sat or ridden a BMW or Aprilia V4 i cannot say for certain.


I know the 1125 R leaves a bad taste in the mouths of those who havent ridden it.
bad impression on those r

Now wait a minute, I know that you guys have been so severely bashed that you assume every comment is negative but,

1 (@SM) Marko has a HD V-Twin Buell, totally different from what you ride. My comments were aimed specifically @ Marko/ his Buell and not every Buell in the world. Again, I understand that you all would jump if I made a negative comment about a Blast at this point...

2 (@M) I said that your ergos are BETTER than theirs judging by the numbers and reviews that I have read. As far as power/brakes go, well hp/tq is a no brainer.. I think the fact that EVERY racer that has used any Buell to race has changed to a more standard brake set up tells the story.

3 (@SM) I have ridden a bike like Marko's so I do have some limited experience on it. I even once rode a 1125R for about 10 miles when I was considering getting in on the "Fire Sale"...

4 (both) Bottom line getting off ANY push rod V-Twin standard and getting on a modern sport bike is going to be eye opening and hard on producing imho. Of course, that's only if you enjoy, performance...

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by marko138

Do they make more power? Of course. But the vibes...that you are wrong about. I'm making a full thread right now. I'll explain.

Cool! I have heard that the Ape is a bit buzzy... If you are about to tell me that the BMW vibrates MORE than a HD equipped Buell... well, I'm going test riding ASAP because this I have to see!!! I know from first hand experience that a Buell like yours vibrates more than my bike does.

[Tmall]

Originally Posted by Amber Lamps

I know from first hand experience that a Buell like yours vibrates more than my bike does.

At idle, without a doubt. But, once under way it is seriously one of the least vibrating bikes I have ever ridden. The rubber mounts dampen it very well once the engine mounts are planted, anywhere after about 2000rpm.


At idle, it will move across my driveway. Once under way, I have never had numb feet or hands and can honestly say there is no noticable vibration once it's going.

[smileyman]

i was just looking at the ergo comment and the two Buells are almost identical there.
No arguments on performance or vibes, you get what you pay for just like your vette/GT comment.

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by smileyman

i was just looking at the ergo comment and the two Buells are almost identical there.
No arguments on performance or vibes, you get what you pay for just like your vette/GT comment.

Well, I said your is BETTER...are you saying that they are not? Well, I think that Marko's bike is more comfortable than mine anyway.

[smileyman]

Not on same page with ya Lamps.

No, i agree the ergos are better. Not much more to comment on there. Buell kool aid is giving me a hangover, LOL.

I like mine, good for the price, good for the application, definitely doesnt stack up to a 20 Thousand dollar anything...

That outta the way Biaggi makes the V4 look brilliant, Camier not so much, BMW seems the better showroom bike, but modified the Factory Ape looks hard to beat.

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by smileyman

Not on same page with ya Lamps.

No, i agree the ergos are better. Not much more to comment on there. Buell kool aid is giving me a hangover, LOL.

I like mine, good for the price, good for the application, definitely doesnt stack up to a 20 Thousand dollar anything...

That outta the way Biaggi makes the V4 look brilliant, Camier not so much, BMW seems the better showroom bike, but modified the Factory Ape looks hard to beat.

Totally agree! I wondered what you were taking issue with... I also agree that the BMW seems to be a great bike out of the box.

[Dave]

Originally Posted by Trip

The beemer is proving itself just fine in Superstock 1000. It needs to get rid of one of the two over hill riders and put someone who can do something on one of those rides, namely Xaus.

Aryton will hopefully replace Xaus next season since he is now 5 for 5.

Biaggi is just lucky Spies went to Moto GP.

Originally Posted by smileyman

That outta the way Biaggi makes the V4 look brilliant, Camier not so much, BMW seems the better showroom bike, but modified the Factory Ape looks hard to beat.

vastly different riding styles and body types, with all the development (up till recently) for max