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Old 06-02-2010, 03:31 PM   #41
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Wait, I'm no engineer. Top kill? Junk shot? I dunno shit about 'em.

I do think one thing though:

Wouldn't a nice explosive shot down the hole essentially "liquefy" the sea floor in that area momentarily, and then it would all immediately re-settle due to gravity and water pressure, and seal this shit right up?

Why can't the Navy aim something straight down the throat of this thing?
Too much pressure. They actually do use dynamite to kill wells, as long as they arent to deep. Deeper the well, the more pressure coming from it, and explosion inside of it would not seal a well that deep, and instead make it impossible to shut down at all.


Its a mess right now, but wait till the hurricanes get into that shit, and starts pushing it up the gulf stream, all over the the shores of the atlantic ocean.

Oh, and thats august assuming they actually hit the relief well on the first try, and dont end up off by even a little bit. This is a huge mess that is going to turn catastrophic. I cant imagine how much marine life has died because of this.
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Old 06-02-2010, 03:44 PM   #42
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The one thing that bothers me about this is that there was no backup plan, should an accident like this happen. Of all the offshore rigs owned by all the different oil companies in the world, not one of them has a way to fix an accident like this? Unbelievable. Let's hope everyone at least learns something from this and has some sort of emergency plan in place, with the proper gear staged nearby, should it happen again.
I agree. The should be gear no more then 2 days away from drilling sites. How many rigs are there in the Gulf? They should have a way to stop pretty much any leak within days of it happening.

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Old 06-02-2010, 05:11 PM   #43
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I agree. The should be gear no more then 2 days away from drilling sites. How many rigs are there in the Gulf? They should have a way to stop pretty much any leak within days of it happening.

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You dont just grab an oil platform and move it in a couple of days. Its easy to throw out ideas when you dont understand the scale of the operation.

Not defending BP, apparently they are a pretty shady company. But its not as simple as grabbing a rig and moving it where you want in a matter of days. I was actually suprised they said they could have the job done by August. Especially in the middle of hurricane season. I'd say August is the best case scenario.
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Old 06-02-2010, 07:47 PM   #44
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You dont just grab an oil platform and move it in a couple of days. Its easy to throw out ideas when you dont understand the scale of the operation.

Not defending BP, apparently they are a pretty shady company. But its not as simple as grabbing a rig and moving it where you want in a matter of days. I was actually suprised they said they could have the job done by August. Especially in the middle of hurricane season. I'd say August is the best case scenario.
I don't mean moving a rig. I mean having the equipment in place to handle things like this. They are guessing at how to stop the leak. They shouldn't be drilling at depths that they don't know how to work in.

And I do have a small idea on the scale of operation. They need to have a lot of pre planning done. That big ass steal condom that was built (that didn't work), should have been pre made, tested and ready to go when needed. They are fucking the ocean and the lives of many people.

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Old 06-02-2010, 10:28 PM   #45
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I don't mean moving a rig. I mean having the equipment in place to handle things like this. They are guessing at how to stop the leak. They shouldn't be drilling at depths that they don't know how to work in.

And I do have a small idea on the scale of operation. They need to have a lot of pre planning done. That big ass steal condom that was built (that didn't work), should have been pre made, tested and ready to go when needed. They are fucking the ocean and the lives of many people.

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It was absolute freak circumstances from what I understand. A failsafe system failed. As I said in the last thread, BOP's have never failed before.

If they followed procedure, and it was an approved BOP, and it failed, then as far as im concerned, they did all they could do.

This is a catastrophic mess, and I think this is just the beginning of a much, much, much larger problem before this is all over. But the fact is, if BP adheres to its governments standards on offshore drilling, and used proper equipment in its wells, then the blame isnt really on them.

However, if it turns out they were using inadequate safety measures and equipment, then I hope they all rot in prison.

Im just saying, its easy to judge, but none of us know what actually happened, and who is really at fault. If they regularly test their BOP's, and they were always in working order, its hard to fault BP. Every other company in the world is using the same standards they are. Considering they are in the USA, their standards might even be higher than most countries.
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Old 06-02-2010, 10:32 PM   #46
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I remember the old days when a thread title like this would result in dozens of Harley jokes.
Unfortunately, they are pretty well built nowadays so now its all "serious talk" in here.
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I remember the old days when a thread title like this would result in dozens of Harley jokes.
Unfortunately, they are pretty well built nowadays so now its all "serious talk" in here.
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I would have though the guy with the 08 1000RR wouldn't want to poke the oil leak/consumption bear but I guess not.

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Old 06-02-2010, 11:43 PM   #49
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I would have though the guy with the 08 1000RR wouldn't want to poke the oil leak/consumption bear but I guess not.

Are you happy now?
First of all CBR1K don't leak oil they burn oil like a two stroke.
second... your a scumbag
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Old 06-03-2010, 12:12 AM   #50
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First of all CBR1K don't leak oil they burn oil like a two stroke.
second... your a scumbag
That's why I put the /consumption, but you are right on both counts.
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