Using throttle to control cornering arc?

[Rider]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

Come on down! Once you get away from the main highways, the cops pretty much leave you alone around here. Lots of sweepers!

Up here too. 120-150 on Leonard all the way to Grand Haven which I am sure you are very familiar with.

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by Rider

Up here too. 120-150 on Leonard all the way to Grand Haven which I am sure you are very familiar with.

Yep, I used to live about one mile off Leonard on Collindale down the street from Shawmutt Hills... In the Summer, I'd ride Leonard to Grand Haven 3 or 4 times a week.

[Fleck750]

Originally Posted by No Worries

Some riders still believe that the bike is more important than the rider's skill. On steep, downhill, twisty roads, I have caught up with bikes that had twice as much horsepower and a third of the weigh of my thirty-year-old bike with steel frame, bias-ply tube-tires, 35mm air-forks, dual shocks, and an air-cooled engine with built-up crank, mechanical ignition advance, two-valves per cylinder, 26mm carbs, and a centerstand. You don't see any of those things on new bikes, because they've all been improved (except for the centerstand). The best thing I improved was my skills by reading Parks' book, taking his class, and practicing.

Please post pics of that GS if you have them.

And thanks for giving me hope in riding the KZ up to potential. I get so tired of people looking at my bike and thinking it's a slow POS.

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by OTB

Yes, grabbing brakes will stand the bike up; but we're not talking about braking; we're talking about decreasing or increasing throttle (speed) mid-turn. You don't believe me? Next time you go for a ride find a nice, long constant radius turn, pick a constant speed, and then roll off the throttle without changing anything else; the bike will tighten up it's turning radius; and the converse is also true.

Don't take my word for it...go try it out.....

It tightens up because when reducing speed you have now given much more time to complete the radius granted you have the same lean angle and the same force to the center.

[No Worries]

Originally Posted by Fleck750

Please post pics of that GS if you have them.

And thanks for giving me hope in riding the KZ up to potential. I get so tired of people looking at my bike and thinking it's a slow POS.

Well, here's my GS. It was my first new bike, and my first four-stroke. It's lightly modified. The biggest improvement was the Works Performance shocks. Thirteen and a half inches. Half inch over stock, and probably another half inch over the old sagging shocks. That quickened the steering and keeps the skinny tire on the ground. A Telefix brace and Progressive Suspension springs help the forks.

It's got the original calipers with Russel lines and Ferodo GG pads. Unfortunately, they don't make HH pads for it. Stock carbs. I added a jet kit, but at this altitude, it ran worse, so I went back to stock. The original ignition was points, but I installed a Dyna electronic. Also has Dyna coils and solid copper wires.

For your KZ, new shocks would be nice, but they're expensive. Not to lower your hopes for your KZ, but when I ride with my friend on his Gixxer1000, I have to ride like a maniac, just to try and keep him in sight. But that's going uphill. Coming back down, the bike does much better. I've done all the maintenance myself, and it's been a hoot to ride. As Suzuki's first superbike, they way overbuilt the engine. Wish they would have done the same to the frame. Anyway, I couldn't care less what people say about me or the bike. Most are amazed that I'm the original owner.

[Fleck750]

I put a new set of Progressives on it, 11 and a 1/2, LOWERED it enough so I could touch the ground. LOL

[Dnyce]

at where this went

[racedoll]

Originally Posted by tached1000rr

Oh well it works for me, I basically wanted to get a good discussion going.

I believe you succeeded, as usual, in one hell of a debate. Way to go!

Originally Posted by No Worries

By the way, where are these 100MPH sweepers? The highways near me are so crowded and patrolled, it's rare to go 90 on straights.

We have some here too!

[OreoGaborio]

It depends on how in control and how near the limit you are.
Rolling on or off the throttle can have either effect.

[karl_1052]

Originally Posted by OTB

Now I remember why I shut up here for so long..............

I'll leave you all to debating how many angels on the head of a pin...see ya..........

Wow. So in a discussion, someone has a different opinion than you, so you take a suck and leave? You must be a hoot in real life.

Originally Posted by Rider

Don't worry about these guys OTB. If they really knew it all they'd be MotoGP champions.

Where are your and OTBs MotoGP champ trophies then?