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Old 01-20-2010, 06:57 PM   #61
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Technically you can't turn fat into muscle.......It either just sits there or gets burned for fuel......it can't get "transformed" into muscle.
Sure can turn muscle to fat though, LoL!
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Old 01-20-2010, 08:57 PM   #62
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I'm kind of the same way with my pace. I can run a 10K at the same pace as my 5K. I tell myself all the time after doing a half marathon that a 5K is nothing and I can run much faster than I do. WTF?

Good for you! I have no desire to do more than a half marathon but if someone else wants to run farther, then go for it. A good friend of mine went to California in early December for a 50 MILE trail run. I told her that she is nuts.
Correction it was a 50 MILE trail run not 100 mile. Not sure where I got that from.... either way is too damn far.

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http://www.ultramarathonman.com/flash/

dean k... something or other... he's called the ultramarathon man... (ultra marathon is a 100miles) but the furthest he's run in a single go with out stopping ish 350 miles... took him 3 days... and he fell asleep running twice!

crazy story.

I don't know that I'll ever run the Boston Marathon... but it'd be cool to qualify. ya know?

but as of today I've never ran a race (apart from x country in HS) and the 10.35 miles I ran the other day... is the furthest I've ran since HS. I've never ran over 15 in my life... but I also don't feel like I HAVE to stop at 10... I feel like i have plenty left... so who knows...
That guy is nuts! I've probably ran 14 miles or so as my farthest between a warm up and then a half. Couldn't walk after my 1st half marathon, but have trained better since then and do OK afterward.
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Old 01-20-2010, 09:36 PM   #63
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Here was the P90X workout for me today: Chest/Back (after about 5 or so minutes of stretching) 12 reps each
1. Standard pushups
2. Wide front pull ups
3. Military pushups
4. Reverse grip chin pull ups

2 mins ballistic stretches

5. Wide fly push ups
6. Closed grip overhand pull ups
7. Decline push ups
8. Heavy pant

2 mins mini stretch

9. Diamond push ups
10. Lawnmower (max reps)
11. Dive bomber pushups
12. Back fly

Repeat 12 exercises, but sequence is now 2, 1, 4, 3, 6, 5, 8, 7, 10, 9, 12, 11

Good workout, or garbage?
The main problem is there is too much volume, unless you plan on doing this once every 2-3 weeks. That and the fact that this is no loading phase or progression if you are going to continue on this path.

Most of these PX90 guys are fat...and this is exactly what it is targeted towards....super high reps/sets where the goal is to burn as many calories as possible within the gym time at the expense of muscle. But why? The reason for lifting isn't to burn calories, it's to build muscle. You burn calories by doing low intensity cardio in the AM and designing your diet around it. You should be sipping on a carb drink during your lifting.

Someone who is fairly lean wanting to build muscle will get little to nothing out of PX90..but again that is not it's intention, since if you want to make money you need to target the masses who can see gains quicker.

There are much better plans to loosing weight, gaining muscle etc..than alot of generic get ripped in 90 days scams.
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Old 01-20-2010, 09:40 PM   #64
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Well, we seem to be discussing it here anyway, so tear it apart.
I would like to know what is wrong with it...

It works well for me because it gives direction, and keeps me on track and honest.
Otherwise, I just wander around the gym, do a couple sets of curls, check out the one chick in the gym, look at the bench and decide its too much work to put weights on the bar, get on the treadmill and run .25 miles before I remember I hate running on treadmills, check out the chick again, drink some water, do 50 sit ups while staring at the chick doing squats in front of me, look at the dip machine, talk to a buddy about the chick, wish they had more/better machines that I wouldn't use anyway, grab some dumbbells and not really do anything with them, check out chick again, weigh myself and cuss that I'm not losing weight, and then leave.
All in all, both take about the same amount of time, but one is a far better workout.
Well your problem is research. It's a "better" workout for you because you have no clue what to do, but in the grand scheme of things it sucks.

Get a body building online personal trainer that will give you diet and exercise help. Try to go for a year and ask everything. This way, things can be tweaked (diet wise and routines) to help you get to your goals.
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Old 01-20-2010, 09:44 PM   #65
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Sure can turn muscle to fat though, LoL!
No...can't do that either. Fat is fat homeboy.
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Old 01-21-2010, 04:35 AM   #66
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The main problem is there is too much volume, unless you plan on doing this once every 2-3 weeks. That and the fact that this is no loading phase or progression if you are going to continue on this path.

Most of these PX90 guys are fat...and this is exactly what it is targeted towards....super high reps/sets where the goal is to burn as many calories as possible within the gym time at the expense of muscle. But why? The reason for lifting isn't to burn calories, it's to build muscle. You burn calories by doing low intensity cardio in the AM and designing your diet around it. You should be sipping on a carb drink during your lifting.

Someone who is fairly lean wanting to build muscle will get little to nothing out of PX90..but again that is not it's intention, since if you want to make money you need to target the masses who can see gains quicker.

There are much better plans to loosing weight, gaining muscle etc..than alot of generic get ripped in 90 days scams.
spoken like someone who's never tried P90x... not saying it's god's gift... but it's obvious you've not even tried it.

they stress that if you want bulk to do no more than 10 reps... and you should be struggling to get that last two or three... if you want definition... do 15-16.

like I said... P90x may not work for everyone... but it's not a scam just to loose weight.
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spoken like someone who's never tried P90x... not saying it's god's gift... but it's obvious you've not even tried it.

they stress that if you want bulk to do no more than 10 reps... and you should be struggling to get that last two or three... if you want definition... do 15-16.

like I said... P90x may not work for everyone... but it's not a scam just to loose weight.
I agree. I like P90X. Its not for everyone but I think its a good program.

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Well your problem is research. It's a "better" workout for you because you have no clue what to do, but in the grand scheme of things it sucks.

Get a body building online personal trainer that will give you diet and exercise help. Try to go for a year and ask everything. This way, things can be tweaked (diet wise and routines) to help you get to your goals.
So tell me this then. I have been lifting for years and I am pretty bulky. I want to cut up but I don't want to loose any muscle, just define what I have. What is the best routine for me? Last week I switched my program to do 4 sets of 20, doing 4 exercises per body part working each body part twice a week.

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