ET's/Aliens yes or no?

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho

Watch that stone henge guy video posted earlier... you don't need a shit ton of wood to move big stones... other stones work as well.

And remember back then labor was free and resources were pissed away because only a handful of people were important enough to 'deserve' them. Plus, they viewed past rulers as gods in many cases... Put all that shit together and it's readily possible... granted, it's not as romantic as an alien invasion.

People were also working for their "God Kings", who held the power of life and death over all they surveyed, so the pressure to work hard was high. I doubt that construction of such things took as long as many here believe.

[AquaPython]

Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho

Watch that stone henge guy video posted earlier... you don't need a shit ton of wood to move big stones... other stones work as well.

And remember back then labor was free and resources were pissed away because only a handful of people were important enough to 'deserve' them. Plus, they viewed past rulers as gods in many cases... Put all that shit together and it's readily possible... granted, it's not as romantic as an alien invasion.

i saw the video and it is impressive. maybe it was the way stone henge was built.

but i did not see any vertical lifting with his ideas.

there are many other questions. such as why this desolate location on the planet?
why was it built so far away from the quarries?

why were the pharoahs alive and dead referred to as gods, exactlY?

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by AquaPython

congratulations, i have been to the area 3 times now. what really is funny here is that i ask a simple question and you guys jump all over it like I am retarded and you have all the answers, promptly inserting foot in mouth.

The point I make with my question is that while the area did have trees, it was basically ONLY in the fertile lands close to the Nile. And you think that these trees would be chopped down for an endless length of rollers and scaffolding just to build these monoliths over hundreds of years, that (as the story books would have you believe) serve no other purpose but a moratorium for a long dead king? What a giant, no, fucking COLOSSAL waste or invaluable resources that would be, no?
The benefits of the life bearing trees in that region staying like that, would far outweigh the alternative.

This leaves only shipping. They had a thriving sea-port based economy, but then they would need to have paid for how many thousands of trees to be imported?

just the tip of the iceberg.

What? You can't be serious... GOD commanded it be build and so it was!!! History shows that the Egyptian economy was indeed nearly devastated by the building of monuments... besides, what exactly do captured slaves cost? How difficult is it to get monumental tasks accomplished when you can basically knock on any door and demand that the inhabitants come work for free? Who cares how many die? This was for the Pharaoh, no greater honor existed than to work and die for his glory! It's all about motivation, bro. Money, really isn't a factor when you "own" the labor, materials, shipping, etc....

What was the total "wasted" resources during the crusades? How about the Inquisition? Heck, how about almost any war ever waged? What about our own monuments, what purpose do they serve? Any idea how much the Lincoln memorial cost to build and maintain? The Washington Monument? The Statue of Liberty? Seriously, how many poor and homeless could we shelter with just the money spent on monuments in this country...

[njchopper87]

Holy shit too much to read. I'd have to say yes, and that there's chance we were brought here via space debris.

[Flexin]

Originally Posted by AquaPython

congratulations, i have been to the area 3 times now. what really is funny here is that i ask a simple question and you guys jump all over it like I am retarded and you have all the answers, promptly inserting foot in mouth.

The point I make with my question is that while the area did have trees, it was basically ONLY in the fertile lands close to the Nile. And you think that these trees would be chopped down for an endless length of rollers and scaffolding just to build these monoliths over hundreds of years, that (as the story books would have you believe) serve no other purpose but a moratorium for a long dead king? What a giant, no, fucking COLOSSAL waste or invaluable resources that would be, no?
The benefits of the life bearing trees in that region staying like that, would far outweigh the alternative.

This leaves only shipping. They had a thriving sea-port based economy, but then they would need to have paid for how many thousands of trees to be imported?

just the tip of the iceberg.

You don't need a endless line of rollers. You just need rollers in front of your object. Once it is off the object that roller is free to move to the front.

I moved a couple hundred pound gate a couple hundred feet because I was told I needed more help then I thought I would. So I did it myself with one steel pole. I also used a Dodge ram but thats not the point. I was told I would tear up the driveway if I pulled it with the truck (I said I will tie it to that damn truck if I had to) so I used the roller to protect the driveway.

I would pull till the roller came out from the gate then I got out and moved the pole to the front and pulled some more. With more poles I wouldn't even need the truck.

James

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by Flexin

You don't need a endless line of rollers. You just need rollers in front of your object. Once it is off the object that roller is free to move to the front.

I moved a couple hundred pound gate a couple hundred feet because I was told I needed more help then I thought I would. So I did it myself with one steel pole. I also used a Dodge ram but thats not the point. I was told I would tear up the driveway if I pulled it with the truck (I said I will tie it to that damn truck if I had to) so I used the roller to protect the driveway.

I would pull till the roller came out from the gate then I got out and moved the pole to the front and pulled some more. With more poles I wouldn't even need the truck.

James

I didn't bother pointing this out because I felt that this would obvious... I'm honestly starting to think that some of these guys are pulling our legs with this stuff...

[Papa_Complex]

Watch and learn.

http://www.wimp.com/buildingstonehenge/

[KSGregman]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

Watch and learn.

http://www.wimp.com/buildingstonehenge/

Now, see? This is EXACTLY what I am talking about. Know how...and TOOLS..in this case a relatively simple fulcrum.

That was awesome.

[Method]

Didn't read the whole thread, so I apologize if this is a repeat.

My take:

The only intelligent life in the history of the universe, no.

The only intelligent life currently surviving in the universe, possibly. Civilizations and intelligent life come and go. One day humans will likely become extinct as other alien civilations likely have before us.

[Avatard]

The OP asked if aliens exist. Like I said in post #2, I think given the vastness of the Universe, it would be naive to think otherwise...but, that said, I also do agree with what a number of folks have pointed out: That the likelihood of us ever coming in contact with any during our lifetimes is very slim...again, for the reasons of sheer vastness...of both time, and space.