Fitness and shit

[Porkchop]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

The point is that low-index carbs such as brown rice don't trigger an insulin release nearly as much as cheaper carbs.

Your body needs glucose for energy. Carbs are more easily converted to glucose than fats or proteins. Probably why endurance athletes (ultras, etc.) replenish themselves with mostly carbs.

Yes, your body can produce energy from fat, thru ketosis (breaking down triglycerides), but it isn't as efficient as getting energy from carbs. If you're training or competing for a long period of time and you deplete those two sources of energy, your body will then start breaking down hard-earned muscle.

I just don't think low-index carbs like brown rice, lentils, oats etc. are anything to worry about, in moderation. They are much less likely than cheap carbs to spike insulin & increase your bodyfat. If you eliminate cheap carbs and just eat low-index ones, you will be doing more than 99.99% of people out there. Beyond that, the only other thing that might benefit is avoiding carbs in your last meal before bed...... but only for appearance reasons (getting cut) rather than performance.

So all this information flying around here is confusing me. Not even talking about competing or being a high level athlete, but just losing weight my diet should consist of what? Meats and vegetables with a very limited portion of low index carbs? But the meats can be a fatty cut like beef or pork? Right now until I get back to my old hockey "floating" weight I plan on doing something to this effect. After that, I may change it up a little bit to kick it into high training mode.

Breakfast
-4 whole eggs with a very light sprinkling of mozerella cheese
-1 cut of thick ham, lunchmeat style ham, or turkey bacon (apparently real bacon is ok now??? )

Snack 1
-1 small fuji apple

Lunch
-Pre-prepared lunch of grilled chicken, mixed vegetables, and a very small potion brown rice. Mixed together with chili pepper. OR Tuna pack with vegetables.
-1 cup greek yogurt

Snack 2
-1/4 cup of dry roasted, unsalted, peanuts

Dinner
- Meat/Fish of the day
-Fresh vegetable of the day
-4 Fish oil tablets
-1 Folic acid tablet
-1 Multi vitamin

Post Lifting
-12 fl oz 1% milk with whey or casein

[Kaneman]

Bro I'm no expert, if you'd have asked me that question two months ago I'd have given you a different answer probably. Watch those videos, read around a bit and see what you think.

But to critique that diet from my point of view I'd say make sure you cook those eggs in butter and make sure you're really full afterward. So full in fact that you don't want to eat that apple for a snack. Apples aren't bad, but if you eat it all by itself you will raise your blood sugar and defeat the purpose of a low carb diet and can also strip muscle tissue.

You've got the idea though. Delicious fatty meats, awesome vegetables in butter and olive oil, some fruits, nuts, dairy etc. The key is to feel full and satiated after your meals and not to leave yourself wanting more and making sure you're getting enough fat to fuel your daily activities.

[OneSickPsycho]

Originally Posted by Kaneman

Bro I'm no expert, if you'd have asked me that question two months ago I'd have given you a different answer probably. Watch those videos, read around a bit and see what you think.

But to critique that diet from my point of view I'd say make sure you cook those eggs in butter and make sure you're really full afterward. So full in fact that you don't want to eat that apple for a snack. Apples aren't bad, but if you eat it all by itself you will raise your blood sugar and defeat the purpose of a low carb diet and can also strip muscle tissue.

You've got the idea though. Delicious fatty meats, awesome vegetables in butter and olive oil, some fruits, nuts, dairy etc. The key is to feel full and satiated after your meals and not to leave yourself wanting more and making sure you're getting enough fat to fuel your daily activities.

Right.

I just finished that one, longass video... pretty interesting, but not totally surprising. Everyone's different with how their bodies process shit... we know this just by watching people eat and how their bodies look, yet for some reason we forget that shit when we start trying to change ourselves.

[azoomm]

My grandparents think we are all nuts. They ate real food, worked really hard (physically) and no one in my family was overweight let alone obese.

My older sister eats processed food more than anything else. She sits on her backside more than walking. Look at that, obese.

Maybe, just maybe it really is that simple?

[Kaneman]

Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho

Right.

I just finished that one, longass video... pretty interesting, but not totally surprising. Everyone's different with how their bodies process shit... we know this just by watching people eat and how their bodies look, yet for some reason we forget that shit when we start trying to change ourselves.

Yup, I've got a buddy with an 8-pack and probably 3% bodyfat who just eats whatever the fuck he wants. He's 33, trains BJJ some (IBJJF World Purple Belt Champion) but doesn't really workout and he's fucking shredded. His body is obviously not storing the carbs and sugar he eats as fat. But he didn't grow up drinking sodas and eating cereal as a meal, his Mom raised him on real food. Soul food actually....cause you know, he's black and all. (duh)

I think where this very low-carb theory really applies is to people who are trying to lose fat they've gained from eating too much sugar. And BTW, once you reach your goals you can have a bowl of ice cream, a piece of cake or whatever now and then and it won't affect your physique or health at all. But if you're trying to turn things around and change your body composition and the way your body stores and burns fat then avoid the cheats for sure.

Originally Posted by azoomm

My grandparents think we are all nuts. They ate real food, worked really hard (physically) and no one in my family was overweight let alone obese.

My older sister eats processed food more than anything else. She sits on her backside more than walking. Look at that, obese.

Maybe, just maybe it really is that simple?

That's one of the points that is always made, "You know, our grandparents knew that potatoes, bread and being lazy made you fat but somewhere along the way....."

We didn't become the most awesome species on the planet by eating grans and boneless, skinless chicken breast. Goddamnit I swear I'll cut my own eye out before I eat another boneless skinless chicken breast.

[shmike]

Originally Posted by azoomm

My grandparents think we are all nuts. They ate real food, worked really hard (physically) and no one in my family was overweight let alone obese.

My older sister eats processed food more than anything else. She sits on her backside more than walking. Look at that, obese.

Maybe, just maybe it really is that simple?

I think it might be.

But by real food, I like food that lived as closely as possible to how nature intended not scientists or corporate bean counters.

[Porkchop]

Originally Posted by Kaneman

I think where this very low-carb theory really applies is to people who are trying to lose fat they've gained from eating too much sugar. And BTW, once you reach your goals you can have a bowl of ice cream, a piece of cake or whatever now and then and it won't affect your physique or health at all. But if you're trying to turn things around and change your body composition and the way your body stores and burns fat then avoid the cheats for sure.

We didn't become the most awesome species on the planet by eating grans and boneless, skinless chicken breast. Goddamnit I swear I'll cut my own eye out before I eat another boneless skinless chicken breast.

So instead of breast meat you eat what? Bone in thighs and legs?

[Kaneman]

Originally Posted by Porkchop

So instead of breast meat you eat what? Bone in thighs and legs?

Beef, buffalo and some dark meat from chicken too. If the chicken breast is cooked really good (like fajita meat) and slathered in delicious butter I might eat a little. I'm eating a grass-fed steak right now for dinner. Mmmm Mmmm.

[Porkchop]

My lunch was a whole container of grilled beef tips cut up fajita style with sauteed onions and yellow peppers, and maybe 3 tablespoons of brown rice mixed in. Drizzled a tiny bit of hot sauce on it. Diet heaven. Feel nice and full...

[Adeptus_Minor]

Originally Posted by Kaneman

Beef, buffalo and some dark meat from chicken too. If the chicken breast is cooked really good (like fajita meat) and slathered in delicious butter I might eat a little. I'm eating a grass-fed steak right now for dinner. Mmmm Mmmm.

I just had a tasty ribeye (good intramuscular fat content) with a half an acorn squash (baked and then slathered with butter).
I feel healthier already