When I'm Right I'm Right!!!

[CasterTroy]

Originally Posted by azoomm

My junior racers have been racing since they were 5 - that's a lot more experience than many riders out there.

I was on the track with 3 of them this weekend and totally shocked how freakin fast and fearless those guys were...the 6 yr old was fast..the 10 yr old was really fast....the 13 yr old? Holy crap...INSANE

[pauldun170]

I'm going to put it on record that a 250 Ninja is an annoying bike to ride on the highway.
However, I did enjoy riding it (belonged to a friend who traded it in for an R6 16 months later).

I wouldn't want it as my only bike though.
That would suck balls.

[RACER X]

i thought it was fun.

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by azoomm

What the hell does that have to do with anything

Those "kids" start out on 50 and 80cc race bikes.... talk about starting small. My junior racers have been racing since they were 5 - that's a lot more experience than many riders out there. So, don't try to mix that into this conversation. It doesn't fit.

It's ridiculous trying to follow a discussion with you. It hurts.

So don't.....

The rookie point is that some of those kids are fast immediately, that's all! Some aren't. I'm always just trying to find a way to say that not everyone starts on the same level, so not everyone should start on the same bike.

You know, if you weren't so busy trying to find fault in everything I say, this would be a lot easier. I mean maybe my point wasn't perfectly clear but it was there if you kinda thought about it....

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by Kerry_129

The 'have to get a bigger/faster bike in order to not be bored and/or keep up' after having a few months/miles on the bike is what I refer to as not being good reasoning. Hey, maybe she does have loads of natural talent & mastered it very quickly - but if that's the case, why isn't she able to 'keep up', as you say (assuming you're not routinely doing triple-digit blasts when you ride with her)? I have no way of knowing, but I'd bet that she's not keeping the rpm up over 10-grand when cornerning & frustrated that it won't pull at all when she rolls back into it. Or simply freaked out by the screaming sound (understandable) and not running it at high rpm to begin with.

It's only my opinion, but I stand by it.

I never said she can't keep up. The main problem is obvious... location! We have cultivated some pretty decent stretches of curves to ride here BUT this ain't the Gap. There are quite a few straights to run through to get to the different sections and the 250 sucks. Also, we went on a 300+ ride up the coast to the Seafood Festival in Morehead,NC Saturday and that shit had to suck on her bike! I think that's basically what put her in the, "I gotta get a different bike" zone.

Funny update! Her Grandpa just called and asked her how she was doing and she told him what happened (sobbing of course) so he is calling the Attorney General () but more importantly, he's sending her a check for a grand to make sure that she's going to be okay.... Oh did I mention that she is the first grandchild for all of the grand parents and the only grandchild on her father's side. Man did fate screw me with my alcoholic parents and dead by the time I was 5 grand parents....

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by pauldun170

I'm going to put it on record that a 250 Ninja is an annoying bike to ride on the highway.
However, I did enjoy riding it (belonged to a friend who traded it in for an R6 16 months later).

I wouldn't want it as my only bike though.
That would suck balls.

Hey, I like it in town! I'd also would mind a Piagio or Vespa either. When the road opens up though, that is not the bike to be on period.

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by RACER X

i thought it was fun.

In town I agree but there would be money spent on brakes and suspension if it were mine... yuck!!!

[tached1000rr]

Originally Posted by pauldun170

I'm going to put it on record that a 250 Ninja is an annoying bike to ride on the highway.
However, I did enjoy riding it (belonged to a friend who traded it in for an R6 16 months later).

I wouldn't want it as my only bike though.
That would suck balls.

I agree with this post....

[azoomm]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

So don't.....

The rookie point is that some of those kids are fast immediately, that's all! Some aren't. I'm always just trying to find a way to say that not everyone starts on the same level, so not everyone should start on the same bike.

You know, if you weren't so busy trying to find fault in everything I say, this would be a lot easier. I mean maybe my point wasn't perfectly clear but it was there if you kinda thought about it....

Man, I'm not finding fault. But, kid racers / go cart drivers / skateboarders / athletes that are in it to be IN IT are different than an adult trying to acquire a skill set. Seriously not even in the same ballpark.

Glad you see your point wasn't clear

I never said someone should start on the same bike. Each case is different. But, I know this from my experience - starting on a bike that has a smaller/easier/forgiving power band will give you the opportunity to learn the skills that are needed to be an accomplished rider.

It's my favorite to watch people try to buy fast.

At the end of the day, it's your money... and your hand on the throttle.

[shmike]

Originally Posted by azoomm

I never said someone should start on the same bike. Each case is different. But, I know this from my experience - starting on a bike that has a smaller/easier/forgiving power band will give you the opportunity to learn the skills that are needed to be an accomplished rider.

It's my favorite to watch people try to buy fast.

At the end of the day, it's your money... and your hand on the throttle.

To a 60lb kid, the powerband on an 80cc 2-stroke can be as violent as any liter bike.


/Devil's advocate