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Old 08-04-2010, 04:40 PM   #81
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Holy shit too much to read. I'd have to say yes, and that there's chance we were brought here via space debris.
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Old 08-04-2010, 05:01 PM   #82
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If I recall correctly, the ancient egyptians felt that their leaders were the physical manifestation of their gods and worshipped them as such. How they got this idea was likely propoganda promoted by the kings themselves and mostly by their priests. Like someone else mentioned, other cultures encouraged this as well, and the leaders themselves were the ones who decreed they were a god.
Yeah. That and they also owned the whips.
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Old 08-04-2010, 05:04 PM   #83
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Yeah. That and they also owned the whips.
next question, how did the "ancient" Americans get their cotton picked? Was it space aliens?
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Old 08-04-2010, 05:11 PM   #84
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next question, how did the "ancient" Americans get their cotton picked? Was it space aliens?
You are over simplifying the discussion. Are there certain things that a ton of free labor and long time windows to accomplish the task would be beneficial? Absolutely....no one with any sense questions that.

To me, the more interesting question comes from looking at both the magnitude of the accomplishment, and the quality. Puma Punku, for example. The stonework there is mastercrafted...in a difficult material to work with. Extremely tight tolerances. I'm just asking...what tools were used to accomplish these feats? Nothing made of copper...nothing made of bronze...too soft. Was it diamond edged tools? If so, where are the diamonds now? Wouldn't there be some evidence of the tools used to complete the job to be found somewhere in or around the job site?

The fact is, WE DON'T KNOW. And that is what makes it interesting...they did it...the ruins are there for everyone to see. But HOW?!
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Old 08-04-2010, 05:24 PM   #85
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the examples you speak of, we can NOT reproduce today.
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Old 08-04-2010, 05:28 PM   #86
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Hey I'm a simple kind of Guy... I know that the one location poses special problems /obstacles foe them to overcome but I stand by my previous hypothesis ...given enough time and manpower anything is possible... oh btw, diamond dust or tools made from the same material would do the trick. As far as finding the tools later...we may find them in graves. A tool that valuable and difficult to produce would be a family heirloom, someone could conceivably be using it right now.
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Old 08-04-2010, 05:32 PM   #87
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the examples you speak of, we can NOT reproduce today.
Exactly, but now it's because of accountants and building codes, not lack of know-how or tools.
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Old 08-04-2010, 05:36 PM   #88
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Im with KSG and AP, the technology that had to have been used surpasses anything we could attempt to reproduce today. And look at the QUALITY, machine made and handcrafted cant compare to these historical feats.

And seriously Tig, heirlooms that someone's using today? From thousands of years ago? Or in graves? That we have already excavated I'd like to point out...
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Old 08-04-2010, 06:42 PM   #89
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the examples you speak of, we can NOT reproduce today.
Give me 20,000 slaves, a quarry, and 5,000 guys with spears and swords, and I'll show you how to build a pyramid.

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Hey I'm a simple kind of Guy... I know that the one location poses special problems /obstacles foe them to overcome but I stand by my previous hypothesis ...given enough time and manpower anything is possible... oh btw, diamond dust or tools made from the same material would do the trick. As far as finding the tools later...we may find them in graves. A tool that valuable and difficult to produce would be a family heirloom, someone could conceivably be using it right now.
Tools made out of the same stone should work fine.
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Old 08-04-2010, 07:00 PM   #90
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Tools made out of the same stone should work fine.
So what did they use to make the tools? And what did they do with the tools that made the tools?
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