Should MotoGP bikes be more restricted like NASCAR?

L8 Braker · 06-08-2011, 11:17 AM

With all the discussion that MotoGP is "boring" or uncompetitive, is there something that can be done to make the races closer at the finish line?...NASCAR has this in place, and no one EVER has a huge lead at the finish line...

So, is that the answer?

L8 Braker · 06-08-2011, 11:19 AM

I vote no, BTW...I'm a "run what you brung" kind of guy...

anthonyk · 06-08-2011, 11:25 AM

No way. Ease up the fuel restrictions, and/or make the tires crappier.

Dave · 06-08-2011, 12:45 PM

Prototype racing is supposed to showcase technology. Restricting that in any way makes it irrelevant

Phenix_Rider · 06-08-2011, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

Prototype racing is supposed to showcase technology. Restricting that in any way makes it irrelevant

Ditto. There are plenty off "stock" classes out there. That's what superbike/supersport and Moto 2 ar efor. What makes GP exciting is seeing the development. I WANT to see a team or a mfg run away with races, because next race or next season it forces someone else to step up and push the state of the art.

"Equal" classes are fine, but if they don't have the slightest resemblence to a commercially available vehicle *ahem* NASCAR *ahem* don't pretend they do.

Dave · 06-08-2011, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Phenix_Rider

Ditto. There are plenty off "stock" classes out there. That's what superbike/supersport and Moto 2 ar efor. What makes GP exciting is seeing the development. I WANT to see a team or a mfg run away with races, because next race or next season it forces someone else to step up and push the statie of the art.

"Equal" classes are fine, but if they don't have the slightest resemblence to a commercially available vehicle *ahem* NASCAR *ahem* don't pretend they do.

Exactly, NASCAR rules need to be rolled back to their homogolation racing days. Be better for everyone

smileyman · 06-08-2011, 03:29 PM

Ahhhh hells no!

Particle Man · 06-08-2011, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L8 Braker

I vote no, BTW...I'm a "run what you brung" kind of guy...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave

Prototype racing is supposed to showcase technology. Restricting that in any way makes it irrelevant

Both of these.

smileyman · 06-08-2011, 05:51 PM

Fortunately with racing motorcycles the style and skill of the rider have a much greater effect in the overall performance than just using the same engines, chassis ect.

Moto2 is a prime example of how you can use the same engine and ecu and get different results thanks partially to open chassis rules but the different rider styles and abilities seem to come out at each circuit.

Not saying that a NASCAR driver doesnt have tracks that his style favors, I am just saying that if that driver has a shit set up that weekend it wont matter how well he wheels a car, someone with the right set up will beat him.

I raced dirt track ovals in cars for about 7-8 years and there is only so much you can do with the car if you miss the set up, usually only about two lines thru a corner thanks to the heavy wide nature of the cars. You can hustle the thing a little but physics takes over eventually.

Bikes have a broader spectrum of lines, styles, and even when you get on a guys bike that owns the lap record, if you dont have his style his set up isnt going to agree but you can still hustle it once you find out how to agree with it (ala Stoner and the Ducati).

OneSickPsycho · 06-08-2011, 06:03 PM

Fuck that shit... completely unrestricted... Engine size should be the only standard...

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06-08-2011, 11:17 AM	#1
L8 Braker Swollen Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 558	Should MotoGP bikes be more restricted like NASCAR? With all the discussion that MotoGP is "boring" or uncompetitive, is there something that can be done to make the races closer at the finish line?...NASCAR has this in place, and no one EVER has a huge lead at the finish line... So, is that the answer?

06-08-2011, 03:29 PM	#7
smileyman White Trash Hero Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NW Arkansas Moto: Buell 1125R Porco Rosso Edition Posts: 4,895	Ahhhh hells no! __________________ Arkriders.com To be the best you must first be willing to risk the worst!

06-08-2011, 05:51 PM	#9
smileyman White Trash Hero Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NW Arkansas Moto: Buell 1125R Porco Rosso Edition Posts: 4,895	Fortunately with racing motorcycles the style and skill of the rider have a much greater effect in the overall performance than just using the same engines, chassis ect. Moto2 is a prime example of how you can use the same engine and ecu and get different results thanks partially to open chassis rules but the different rider styles and abilities seem to come out at each circuit. Not saying that a NASCAR driver doesnt have tracks that his style favors, I am just saying that if that driver has a shit set up that weekend it wont matter how well he wheels a car, someone with the right set up will beat him. I raced dirt track ovals in cars for about 7-8 years and there is only so much you can do with the car if you miss the set up, usually only about two lines thru a corner thanks to the heavy wide nature of the cars. You can hustle the thing a little but physics takes over eventually. Bikes have a broader spectrum of lines, styles, and even when you get on a guys bike that owns the lap record, if you dont have his style his set up isnt going to agree but you can still hustle it once you find out how to agree with it (ala Stoner and the Ducati). __________________ Arkriders.com To be the best you must first be willing to risk the worst!

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06-08-2011, 11:19 AM	#2
L8 Braker Swollen Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 558	I vote no, BTW...I'm a "run what you brung" kind of guy...

06-08-2011, 11:25 AM	#3
anthonyk WERA White Plate Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Austin, TX Moto: '01 Aprilia Falco Posts: 1,041	No way. Ease up the fuel restrictions, and/or make the tires crappier.

06-08-2011, 12:45 PM	#4
Dave Chaotic Neutral Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Cherry Hill NJ Moto: GV1200 Madura, Hawk gt Posts: 13,992	Prototype racing is supposed to showcase technology. Restricting that in any way makes it irrelevant

06-08-2011, 06:03 PM	#10
OneSickPsycho Ride Like an Asshole Join Date: Feb 2008 Moto: nothing... Posts: 11,254	Fuck that shit... completely unrestricted... Engine size should be the only standard...