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Old 01-12-2009, 11:58 AM   #11
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I like the styling and the electronic driver aids are neat although I can still see in my "blind spot" cheaper (it is called paying attention). It does look an awful lot like the Honda Accord to me and that kind of follow the leader never gets much respect from me.
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Old 01-12-2009, 11:59 AM   #12
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Blame the Americans who head up focus groups over here in the states.
that's the case for all US based manufacturers.

Americans don't want cars...they want CUV\SUV\Commanding View of the road with cars that do a bazillion things like connect to the internet, serve coffee and pull dinkleberries straight from your anus while the seamless automatic transmission and remotecontrol one pinky steerable suspension hides the fact that you are being forced to drive yourself to the mall.
Well fuck the companies for being stupid enough to rely on shoddy focus groups and bean counters to design cars. I'd say that maybe they'd learn from these mistakes, but I sincerely doubt it. These design-by-commitee geniuses gave us all those wonderful ovals everywhere Ford products, BMW "flame surfacing" eye sores, and countless other "company design directions" that have been a blip on the failure radar before disappearing. I hope this economic downturn realigns their focus on producing quality cars now that the cash cows have dried up.
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Old 01-12-2009, 12:04 PM   #13
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Americans don't want cars...they want CUV\SUV\

seen the new toyota Venza, i rikey!
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Old 01-12-2009, 12:21 PM   #14
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seen the new toyota Venza, i rikey!
The lift kit equipped Camry wagon?

It'll sell simply for being a 4dr Toyota available under 30K.

That thing could be powered by a Hungarian hamster wheel and cause herpes but people would still buy it because "It's a Toyota and it will last a really long time...it will last WAY longer than the 4-6 years I'll actually own it"
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Old 01-12-2009, 12:26 PM   #15
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seen the new toyota Venza, i rikey!
It looks like every other not quite station wagon/not quite minivan/not quite SUV. It's a blob of sheet metal with a toyota badge on it that's not quite as useful as a station wagon, not quite as functional as a minivan, and almost as capable as an SUV. And since it is a toyota, you'll be getting all of that not quite functionality at a premium price. Can't wait for the even pricier and more useless Lexus derivative.
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Old 01-12-2009, 12:34 PM   #16
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agreed, nothing inovating, but then why do "I" need anything innovating? i just need something that fits my needs.

we were on track for a new camaro SS, but w/ another on the way, we'll have to put those plans on the backburner. and I'm not sure i/we want another minivan.
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Old 01-12-2009, 12:36 PM   #17
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agreed, nothing inovating, but then why do "I" need anything innovating? i just need something that fits my needs.

we were on track for a new camaro SS, but w/ another on the way, we'll have to put those plans on the backburner. and I'm not sure i/we want another minivan.
I'm sure, with a little creative welding, you could fab up a mount that will accomodate two kid seats in the trunk with a little bit of sound insulation, leaving the passenger cabin blissfully kid free.
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Old 01-12-2009, 01:28 PM   #18
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Looks like a Subaru Legacy and a Fusion went at it and created offspring...

It isn't too bad.
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The first pic looks great.......Nice rims.........But the pics RacerX posted are a big let-down for some reason.

I'm not too fond of steep rear windows, they tend to heat up the interior and cause reflections.
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Old 01-13-2009, 01:52 AM   #20
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The lift kit equipped Camry wagon?

It'll sell simply for being a 4dr Toyota available under 30K.

That thing could be powered by a Hungarian hamster wheel and cause herpes but people would still buy it because "It's a Toyota and it will last a really long time...it will last WAY longer than the 4-6 years I'll actually own it"
lol

Ford Taurus looks good, but the beltline is high like the Chryslers.
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