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Old 11-19-2009, 02:10 PM   #31
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Now what if the information about the original incident was fabricated?
that's almost what I was expecting (and sort of still am)... that would be totally effed.
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Old 11-19-2009, 02:41 PM   #32
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Those that do not are most likely sociopaths, and they make up a very small percentage of the population. A sociopath would not likely have enough emotional capacity to react in the way this father did...because he simply wouldn't care.
1 in 25 people are thought to be Sociopaths. 1 in 25 is a scarily large number of people..
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Old 11-19-2009, 02:44 PM   #33
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1 in 25 people are thought to be Sociopaths. 1 in 25 is a scarily large number of people..
I think that number may have tripled, or more over the last couple of decades. I'm part of what was commonly referred to as the "me generation", having been born in the '60s. If that's true, then the current batch should be known as the "F you, give me all your stuff, it's mine" generation.
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Old 11-19-2009, 02:45 PM   #34
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I think that number may have tripled, or more over the last couple of decades. I'm part of what was commonly referred to as the "me generation", having been born in the '60s. If that's true, then the current batch should be known as the "F you, give me all your stuff, it's mine" generation.
My number is pulled from 2005, "The Sociopath Next Door" by Martha Stout, PH.D.
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Old 11-19-2009, 02:49 PM   #35
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My number is pulled from 2005, "The Sociopath Next Door" by Martha Stout, PH.D.
Despite when it was published I think that it's a rather conservative estimate, given the number of people I have encountered who are completely egocentric, have no capacity for empathy whatsoever, and love mirrors more than Nietzsche did.
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Old 11-19-2009, 03:09 PM   #36
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1 in 25 people are thought to be Sociopaths. 1 in 25 is a scarily large number of people..
I think narcissism coupled with society's current gravitation toward selfishness often gets confused as sociopathic behavior, but I believe true sociopaths are more rare than 1 in 25.
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Old 11-19-2009, 03:24 PM   #37
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I think narcissism coupled with society's current gravitation toward selfishness often gets confused as sociopathic behavior, but I believe true sociopaths are more rare than 1 in 25.
And my belief is that people are narrowing the definition of sociopath, so that they don't fall into it themselves. There is a tendency in the mental health care profession to sub-compartmentalize various larger illness groups, and create definitions for illnesses out of whole cloth, so that they can create their own "syndrome" discovery.

How many people you know, from their mid-teen years on, exhibit the following pathology?

- not learning from experience
- no sense of responsibility
- inability to form meaningful relationships
- inability to control impulses
- lack of moral sense
- chronically antisocial behavior
- no change in behavior after punishment
- emotional immaturity
- lack of guilt
- self-centeredness

The more that I think about it, the more I come to believe that we're currently raising a generation of sociopaths.
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Old 11-19-2009, 03:29 PM   #38
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And my belief is that people are narrowing the definition of sociopath, so that they don't fall into it themselves. There is a tendency in the mental health care profession to sub-compartmentalize various larger illness groups, and create definitions for illnesses out of whole cloth, so that they can create their own "syndrome" discovery.

How many people you know, from their mid-teen years on, exhibit the following pathology?

- not learning from experience
- no sense of responsibility
- inability to form meaningful relationships
- inability to control impulses
- lack of moral sense
- chronically antisocial behavior
- no change in behavior after punishment
- emotional immaturity
- lack of guilt
- self-centeredness

The more that I think about it, the more I come to believe that we're currently raising a generation of sociopaths.
I agree but the problem is nobody's "raising" them. If you're surrounded by bad behavior, that's all you're gonna know.
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Old 11-19-2009, 03:31 PM   #39
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I agree but the problem is nobody's "raising" them. If you're surrounded by bad behavior, that's all you're gonna know.
Raising them in a vacuum is also a parenting choice.
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I disagree that people are a product of their environment. Its a cop out.

A pos is a pos regardless of why. All that matters is that they're a pos.
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