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Old 10-26-2009, 06:34 PM   #1
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Exclamation Rossi career statistics - GOAT?



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Old 10-26-2009, 07:22 PM   #2
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The choices should've been:

A: Hell yes
B: This shouldn't even really be here because it's not a debate, yes again!
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Old 10-26-2009, 07:31 PM   #3
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Agostini didnt have traction control or any other electronics. this in my mind voids any bid vale might have for the crown
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Old 10-26-2009, 07:41 PM   #4
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Not yet, but close.

Even when he surpasses Ago's GP finishes, he still wouldn't be the GOAT because he had yet to tackle and win the Isle of Man TT.
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Old 10-26-2009, 07:43 PM   #5
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Agostini didnt have traction control or any other electronics. this in my mind voids any bid vale might have for the crown

While I agree it's not an apples to apples comparison, Agostini raced against those w/o traction control or electronics, so the playing field was level in that respect, and Rossi raced against guys using the same hardware as he in terms of traction control/electronics. So for there own perspective eras I can't say they had a competitive advantage over their peers other than their own skills.

For the record I don't like the use of traction control or electronics I like it old school but if I was piloting one of those monsters are the circuit I'd most likely feel different.
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Old 10-26-2009, 09:31 PM   #6
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Agostini didnt have traction control or any other electronics. this in my mind voids any bid vale might have for the crown
Rossi didn't have TC or electronics when he started racing either.

That has come about in the last decade or so. While I think it takes some of the excitement out of it, Rossi has proven able to adapt.

I'm sure if Agostini was racing today, he wouldn't refuse TC.

Rossi won't reach Ago's 15 titles but I hope he stays long enough to get 123 total wins.

There should be no doubt, Vale = GOAT.
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Old 10-26-2009, 09:37 PM   #7
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Agostini didnt have traction control or any other electronics. this in my mind voids any bid vale might have for the crown
What did Rossi have up until about 3 years ago? If he didn't use electronics, those who can utilize them would be winning. Not Rossi..
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Old 10-27-2009, 08:46 AM   #8
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Agostini didnt have traction control or any other electronics. this in my mind voids any bid vale might have for the crown
Ago never rode a 190hp 500cc two stroke.

I also think the competition is tougher now, with all the new technology, fitness regimes(think Barry Sheene), coaching, tires and machinery.

Vale, hands down.
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Old 10-27-2009, 09:34 AM   #9
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Is this really a valid question? Of course he is.
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Old 10-27-2009, 10:52 AM   #10
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Ago never rode a 190hp 500cc two stroke.

I also think the competition is tougher now, with all the new technology, fitness regimes(think Barry Sheene), coaching, tires and machinery.

Vale, hands down.
ago never had modern frame or tire tech either. tell you what, you go out and break the shit out of rossi's leg ad see how he does. i might yield my position


i also want to see rossi race a screamer vs everyone else on big bang
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