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Old 11-08-2012, 03:24 PM   #18
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Some do, particularly if you are buying insurance on your own, but it is not even close to all. Specific to his nephew I may just not be aware of it but I've never heard of a pre-existing condition for a newborn either. That's why I asked why he would assume.

I'm certainly not saying it isn't a problem but the "pre-existing condition" issue is given so much attention people who don't know better assume if you had the flu one time you will never be able to get insurance again.
Except that in this case, it was a pre-existing condition, as it was known that he would need surgery at birth, about 4 months before he was born. Perhaps he could have recieved insurance, I don't know for sure, but thhere still would have been huge co-pays.

All I am saying is that if we don't have a problem with our own system, why do americans seem to want to pretend that there is a problem with it.

I have never, ever known a person who did not get the treatment they needed. If there is anything our medical system can do, they will do it. The cost of much of this stuff is astronomical. If we don't have a problem with paying 30% tax and deductions(EI, CPP, etc etc), why the fuck should you guys care? It does not affect you in any way, and most families are in need of the health care system, so yes, in effect it costs us nothing. As I said before, just your co-pays alone can add up to more than most people pay in taxes in a year, if lengthy care is required. Yes, you don't NEED to pay it, but i'm sure it fucks your credit, and causes as many bankruptcies as any other issue, aside from job losses. I much prefer our system, as do the vast majority of Canadians.

My standard of living is quite high. I don't have a problem with paying taxes. If it doesn't bother me, why the hell should it bother you guys? As a matter of fact, if the government would propose free college/university for students who keep their grades above, say 80%/B, I would vote to raise taxes for that, as well. I am a firm believer that education should be free and available to anyone who is willing to work hard enough to keep decent grades. Just as I believe nobody should recieve a bill for being sick or injured. In turn, those students who use the free education system, end up being lifelong tax payers who contribute to our society with their own tax dollars, instead of contributing to the riches of the banks who create interest rates on student loans high enough ensure the student is paying them for the next 12-15 years.

What I would stop though, is one of the biggest drains on society. Long term welfare. We have far too much of it. Anyone on welfare should be forced to take classes to improve their job skills, and to ffind work within 3-6 months, except in extreme cases (Mentally retarded people, severely disabled persons, and single mothers for the first year (and only the first) of the childs life. Welfare is a huge, senseless drain on our economy, and needs to be stopped.

Taxes are a great thing. I'm sorry you people are so afraid of them.
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