Oh Dave and Tori....

[neebelung]

Originally Posted by Trip

A coworker has a south american version. He is pretty proud of that fact too. He seems happy, he is a huge dork aka ugly and has a hot ass foreign wife.

Hey, good for him! Better than he'd do on his own, I'm sure!

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by shmike

$454 is a good deal?

I'd hate to see what is costs retail.

Yea it's the jacket and chaps! Jacket was $500 and chaps were $325 retail. I know a lot of people are down on Icon but I'd put construction and materials up against anyone in the same price range. On a side note, has everyone seen the $1,300 jacket from A*....are you kidding me? The pants are about the same price...

http://www.alpinestars.com/365_GoreT.../p/310900.html

[Sean]

Originally Posted by shmike

I know.

I'm still surprised.

I can't imagine anyone paying $500+ for an Icon anything.

for realz, yo.

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by Trip

A coworker has a south american version. He is pretty proud of that fact too. He seems happy, he is a huge dork aka ugly and has a hot ass foreign wife.

Yep a guy I know in town that pulled a Phillipino chick over here and married her! He said he was tired of American women attitudes. He kind of got himself a permanent maid and sex slave the way it sounds... Wait, I said that like it's a BAD thing!

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by Sean

for realz, yo.

Yea well, I never got paying double for a European bike so I guess we're even....

[azoomm]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

Yea well, I never got paying double for a European bike so I guess we're even....

I don't understand the warnings on the labels of much of their gear... that states it is NOT designed as safety equipment. Hell, at that point you might as well just spend $500 for a pair of last season's Blahniks....

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by azoomm

I don't understand the warnings on the labels of much of their gear... that states it is NOT designed as safety equipment. Hell, at that point you might as well just spend $500 for a pair of last season's Blahniks....

Hahaha! I haven't heard that one in a while! I have several Icon jackets. The only such tag that ever appeared was a tag stating that their jacket wasn't "tested" to pass EC regulations 1992 (S.L. 1992/3139) and therefore cannot be "considered" personal protective equipment by those regulations. The truth is that Icon used as thick of leather as anyone and CE approved armor since day one. FWIW that was a condition that only pertained to some of their earliest garments and has been since rectified with EC certification. I completely acknowledge that no pair of chaps is ever going to pass EC certification imho. Btw I challenge anyone to find a company willing to guarantee complete protection in case of a crash. At least no one is writing articles claiming that a cheese and cabbage sandwich offers better protection! It's been a while since we've had an Icon battle! Bring it on!!!!

[CrazyKell]

I don't get the icon bashing either.

I have a merc jacket that's held up amazing well. I've never been down in it but compared to other textiles I've seen it's the same or better construction. Also can't seem to find the label in it that tells me it's not safety gear.

I think it looks pretty good for street gear and gives everyone more choice. I'm all for that.

[azoomm]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

It's been a while since we've had an Icon battle! Bring it on!!!!

No battle - I'm thrilled that people are buying and wearing ANYTHING other than bullshit windbreakers. And, even more happy when the helmet is on their HEAD rather than a rear sub-frame slider

I just choose to purchase and wear items that are better than those. But then, I DO understand buying European elitest machines

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by azoomm

No battle - I'm thrilled that people are buying and wearing ANYTHING other than bullshit windbreakers. And, even more happy when the helmet is on their HEAD rather than a rear sub-frame slider

I just choose to purchase and wear items that are better than those. But then, I DO understand buying European elitest machines

Hahaha! I still challenge you to define "better" show me a study that proves that a Dainese or A* jackets offers better protection. Especially in the same price range. Quite frankly, A* and Dainese jackets in this price range are all made in the same Chinese factories as AGV, Icon, Joe Rocket, etc...

Haha, conversely I know that even if I could prove that a $300 Icon jacket offers the same or even better protection as a $900 Dainese/A* you'd still buy the more expensive jacket just to snub your nose at us plebeians! I guess I DO actually understand the elitist mindset after all.