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Old 10-13-2009, 04:37 PM   #21
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Well you're free to reveal what other types of lawsuits you're predicting.....We can't read your mind.

As for the rest of your post......no shit
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Education experts say that zero-tolerance policies initially allowed authorities more leeway in punishing students, but were applied in a discriminatory fashion. Many studies indicate that African-Americans were several times more likely to be suspended or expelled than other students for the same offenses.
Civil rights lawsuits, equal protection lawsuits, discrimination lawsuits, etc. Most school districts do not want those. You avoid them by removing any discretionary thought from rules. If a school district has created those rules to apply equally to everyone and can show that they have done so they can prevent most of those suits from gaining any momentum.

The lesson is the typical school district would much rather have the accusation or appearance of stupidity over the accusation or appearance of racism.
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Old 10-13-2009, 04:38 PM   #22
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Old 10-13-2009, 04:39 PM   #23
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Old 10-13-2009, 04:39 PM   #24
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Really?? You sure you're in the right thread? If not, it's a bit of a stretch to drag that word into this thread.
When things get confusing...just blame it on black people.
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When things get confusing...just blame it on black people.
Was the quote in your post a turbo delete?
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Was the quote in your post a turbo delete?
Yep. Read the post you quoted and saw race was mentioned, so I deleted my comment.
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Old 10-14-2009, 12:21 PM   #28
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When things get confusing...just blame it on black people.
It seems to me the reason things like this get confusing is because white administrators are hyper-sensitive to avoid any controversy, justified or not.
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It seems to me the reason things like this get confusing is because white administrators are hyper-sensitive to avoid any controversy, justified or not.
I know way to many people in education and I'm a nosey bastard so I'll pipe in about our area.

It may offend some but it should be said that this is specific to the tri state region.

Race is not a big factor in Administrator decisions. If you have a predominately black school, then chances are your school is in a poorer district and in that case parents are a non issue as they are not engaged. Occasionally in the really crappy neighborhoods you'll get a dead kid pop up for whatever reason and then you'll get "community leaders showing up to say "Somebody has got to do something!!" but it's a non-issue.

The big issue will usually be NCLB stuff and security. Not lawsuits.
Occasionally you get the issue of how it's racist that the school has crappy books or conditions but the reality the chart that shows the property tax numbers for the district, folks walk away grumbling.


In mixed schools, there are no lawsuits "due to race". There are no discrimination issues unless you have some faculty member claiming they were passed over due to race. Usually the end result is union rep pointing out "Well....you were passed over because you called in sick half the year and your averages suck".


In the "nice neighborhoods" filled predominately white, middle to upper midle class students?

Lawsuit threat after lawsuit threat after lawsuit threat.

When you have spoiled suburbanites raising spoiled suburbanites who have discretionary income to blow on a lawyer....you have lawsuit nonsense.

When you have neighborhoods where families can afford to have a "stay at home" parent who can have the free time watching the talk show circuit or local news....you have lawsuit nonsense.



Discrimination lawsuits are not a risk. Race issues are not a financial risk. They may be a security risk but not a huge financial risk.
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It seems to me the reason things like this get confusing is because white administrators are hyper-sensitive to avoid any controversy, justified or not.
Yep.........But it's not to avoid a lawsuit........ it's to play politics and position themselves as "culturally sensitive".

In education, job advancement is primarily perception-based, not performance-based. They might attempt to measure performance, but using bullshit methods.
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