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Old 12-24-2010, 11:30 AM   #41
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You don't want to waste time on definitions....
Little silly to be arguing over the definition of a tax and the definition of a premium.
You started it....
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Old 12-24-2010, 11:33 AM   #42
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Gosh you're sexy when you're being witty.... Oh yea I can just see those brightly colored nails furiously tapping that keyboard/phone screen....oh yea...
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Old 12-24-2010, 11:38 AM   #43
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Old 12-24-2010, 11:41 AM   #44
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How about this, in stead of punishing the unemployed for being out or work. Let's crack down on illegal workers in this country, deport the illegals and tighten our borders.

That or make the unemployed go to trade school or help pay for relocation away from low employment areas.

At any rate, as someone said, I'd focus on welfare rats before I started with the people collecting insurance. That's just me though....
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Old 12-24-2010, 12:59 PM   #45
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I agree with Paul and AL, even though they don't seem to agree with each other. Money is collected by the government for each person who is working to pay for the insurance/tax. This would be like a person wadding up their vehicle and their insurance company requiring him to come work for them.
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Old 12-24-2010, 03:28 PM   #46
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....Here's some good questions....who's paying for travel to these forced labor camps/sites? Understand that UE is less than half of what you used to make on the job so adding a $50+ expense to someone's life that is trying to make it on half wages... Who's watching the children? When you're bringing home $600/week you can afford daycare but on $300? You're lucky to pay the mortgage and keep the lights on most of the time. Are you going to be doing the type of work you're trained to do? Or are they just going to hand hammers and shovels to downsized accountants and secretaries? What if you get hurt on one of these jobs? Who's going to pay for that?
This would be fine if unemployment didn't last 2 FUCKING YEARS!

I say make their asses work. Maybe only 2 days a week, but they need to do something.
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Old 12-24-2010, 06:14 PM   #47
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Alright then. It's settled. We shoot illegals on sight. What a load off my shoulders. Let all go out and have a beer now.
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Old 12-25-2010, 03:29 PM   #48
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Pile of BS. People on EI paid into EI.

Make welfare reipients do community service.
Under the "tax deal" just passed, unemployment benefits have been extended another 13 months. The funding from that comes directly from federal coffers. It's not the same money as traditional unemployment, which is paid by employers.

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So the government doesn't "force" us to have car insurance? Oh I thought that they did....my bad.
Actually, they don't. The federal government doesn't care about your car insurance. Car insurance is required by the state, and then only if you have a car that you operate on public roadways. If you choose not to own a car or choose not to operate your car on public roadways, you don't have to purchase insurance.

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I agree with Paul and AL, even though they don't seem to agree with each other. Money is collected by the government for each person who is working to pay for the insurance/tax. This would be like a person wadding up their vehicle and their insurance company requiring him to come work for them.
Under the traditional system, this is true, but with the new 13-month extension, the program is now federally-funded, not employer-funded.

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How about this, in stead of punishing the unemployed for being out or work. Let's crack down on illegal workers in this country, deport the illegals and tighten our borders.

That or make the unemployed go to trade school or help pay for relocation away from low employment areas.

At any rate, as someone said, I'd focus on welfare rats before I started with the people collecting insurance. That's just me though....
Agreed, on many counts. Fixing the illegal problem really needs to be a priority. I'm also on-board with some sort of training for unemployment recipients to get them back to work.

Welfare rats, especially those on long-term welfare, should be required to work a minimum of sixty hours per week doing something that qualifies as real WORK. Make welfare far less pleasant than employment, and we'll be making progress.
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Old 12-26-2010, 12:07 AM   #49
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Alright then. It's settled. We shoot illegals on sight. What a load off my shoulders. Let all go out and have a beer now.
We aren't talking about illegals here brah.
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