Apparently it's MY fault...

[Apoc]

Originally Posted by Cutty72

Last sled I was on was a 07 M1000. It was clamp it and hang on, corner, BRAKE, lean and turn, clamp it and go!

As awesome as they are for the purpose they were built for, they are horrible trail sleds.

The M series are dedicated deep powder sleds. The Crossfire 1000R has the same engine, with a 128" lag, and is much better on trails

But the M1000 is very maneuvarable in deep snow, the crossfire, not so much.

Thats why I was kinda suprised ParticleMan mentioned so much trail riding, the bearcats arent great trail sleds, more of a trailbreaking/work machine. Though they are great family sleds, so if his wife and little girl enjoy it, I understand.

But his wife could take the daughter on the old sled, and he coulda rocked a new RMK Assault or F8!!

[ericr]

Originally Posted by Particle Man

sometimes you have snow to land in

sometimes the wannabe racers tear it all to hell and there's nothing left but dirt.

Who was it that landed on a big area of ice a few years back, might have been CF times...was that you James?? My memory is non-existant but I remember someone wiped out on their sled but it was a bunch of ice under the snow! ouch!

[Particle Man]

Not I. I've wiped out before but not on the ice (thankfully it's all been powder )

And Apoc, it's a good thing I don't ride a Bearcat then, huh? (it's not a Bearcat; I found those way to heavy and difficult to maneuver)


http://www.arcticcat.com/snow/pastMo...ING&model=T500

[Apoc]

Originally Posted by Particle Man

Not I. I've wiped out before but not on the ice (thankfully it's all been powder )

And Apoc, it's a good thing I don't ride a Bearcat then, huh? (it's not a Bearcat; I found those way to heavy and difficult to maneuver)


http://www.arcticcat.com/snow/pastMo...ING&model=T500

Ok, its not a bearcat. But it is built on almost the same chassis. The tunnel is extended, I didnt realize the t500 had a shorter lag.

The shorter lag alone would make all the difference in handling.

Thats cool, I thought it was just a 500cc version of the bearcat.

[Particle Man]

Originally Posted by Apoc

Ok, its not a bearcat. But it is built on almost the same chassis. The tunnel is extended, I didnt realize the t500 had a shorter lag.

The shorter lag alone would make all the difference in handling.

Thats cool, I thought it was just a 500cc version of the bearcat.

yeah - there's part of me that finds the Bearcat pretty cool but the other side of me remembers that it's a PIA to handle in the deeper snow in anything other than a straight line and heavy on the trails.

So far, I have 625 miles on the T500 and I really like the handling - it's better than I anticipated it would be, that's for sure. The Twin Spar makes a ton of difference in the handling of bumps as well. As soon as I get the time I'll write a full review.

[askmrjesus]

Originally Posted by Particle Man

yeah - there's part of me that finds the Bearcat pretty cool

I don't know, it doesn't look friendly...

JC

[Cutty72]

Originally Posted by Apoc

As awesome as they are for the purpose they were built for, they are horrible trail sleds.

The M series are dedicated deep powder sleds. The Crossfire 1000R has the same engine, with a 128" lag, and is much better on trails

But the M1000 is very maneuvarable in deep snow, the crossfire, not so much.

Thats why I was kinda suprised ParticleMan mentioned so much trail riding, the bearcats arent great trail sleds, more of a trailbreaking/work machine. Though they are great family sleds, so if his wife and little girl enjoy it, I understand.

But his wife could take the daughter on the old sled, and he coulda rocked a new RMK Assault or F8!!

Yeah, around here there are a lot of wide open fields and flats. The M is nice for the ride, and the Xfire is good for a combo if you want to ride the trails some. The F's you just get beat up.

[Apoc]

Originally Posted by Cutty72

Yeah, around here there are a lot of wide open fields and flats. The M is nice for the ride, and the Xfire is good for a combo if you want to ride the trails some. The F's you just get beat up.

????

The f series has been voted the most comfortable trail sled on the market by pretty much the whole industry. Its a hell of a lot more comfy than a crossfire or M-series, and I have extensive time on all three.

[Particle Man]

Originally Posted by Cutty72

Yeah, around here there are a lot of wide open fields and flats. The M is nice for the ride, and the Xfire is good for a combo if you want to ride the trails some. The F's you just get beat up.

what year F's are you talkin' about?

[Apoc]

Originally Posted by Particle Man

what year F's are you talkin' about?

Ya, this occured to me a while ago, if she's talking about the pre-07 f-series, I can understand! The Twin Spar F series are like cadillacs!