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Old 11-04-2011, 11:05 AM   #1
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huh, who woulda ever thunk

look at the last chart

http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/Pubs/811389.pdf
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Old 11-04-2011, 11:35 AM   #2
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huh, who woulda ever thunk

look at the last chart

http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/Pubs/811389.pdf
It doesn't really mean anything.
Its like showing a chart showing only seatbelt usage and fatalities.
You would have to make the assumption that usage would have made a difference in outcome.

"Helmeted rider traveling at high rate of speed collided with dump truck and died"

Well if he wasn't wearing a helmet then he would have lived!!!
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Old 11-04-2011, 12:57 PM   #3
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huh, who woulda ever thunk

look at the last chart

http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/Pubs/811389.pdf
I take it you didn't actually read the article.

From the page right before that:

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Helmets are estimated to be 37-percent effective in preventing fatal injuries to motorcycle riders and 41 percent for motorcycle passengers. In other words, for every 100 motorcycle riders killed in crashes while not wearing a helmet, 37 of them could have been saved had all 100 worn helmets.
That was even highlighted in the sidebar.

Numbers of fatalities (helmeted or not) in a state are meaningless without knowing the total population of riders. I don't understand why NHTSA never seems to put the important numbers in their charts...
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I don't understand why NHTSA never seems to put the important numbers in their charts...
They're on the ABATE payroll...

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Old 11-04-2011, 01:15 PM   #5
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I take it you didn't actually read the article.

From the page right before that:



That was even highlighted in the sidebar.

Numbers of fatalities (helmeted or not) in a state are meaningless without knowing the total population of riders. I don't understand why NHTSA never seems to put the important numbers in their charts...
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Old 11-04-2011, 03:10 PM   #6
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Don't they have at least a fatallity at every one of their rallies?
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Old 11-04-2011, 06:25 PM   #7
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Don't they have at least a fatallity at every one of their rallies?
Last one was here. Helmet law protester splattered his mellon cuz he wasn't wearing a lid.
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The real take away is page 4, 42% of deaths were drunk
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Old 11-04-2011, 07:04 PM   #9
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The real take away is page 4, 42% of deaths were drunk
And on their way back from an ABATE rally...

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Old 11-04-2011, 09:33 PM   #10
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