Looking for a sports car bargain: $5K rebate on '08 Miatas!

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by pauldun170

Exactly!!!

I SOOOO agreee with you..

Like a 1990 Corvette went for 32K back in 1990 and now it goes for like what 60K-70K

OMG!!!! It's the same car!!!




anyways......

5K discount eh...
Miata's start at 22K so if there are any base model lying around that's a hell of a deal

You damn well know a 1990 vette is night and day different than a new Vette.

[pauldun170]

Originally Posted by 101lifts2

You damn well know a 1990 vette is night and day different than a new Vette.

...and you damn well know that a 1990 Miata is night and day from a new one.

[pauldun170]

1990 Corvette: 31.9K base price
0-60 mph in 5.7 - 14.3 1/4
2009 Corvette:48.5K base price
0-60 mph in 4.1

1.6 second improvement time worth 16.6K

1990 Mazda Miata:13.8K base price
9.4 0-60 16.9 1/4
2009 Miata:22.7K base price
0-60 mph in 7.5 seconds

1.9 second improvement time worth 8.9K

[Chris S]

Originally Posted by 101lifts2

When the Miata came out it was under 15k..now its 30k and its the same CAR!!!!

Why would I pay double for the same shit? At least the Americans make the cars totally different.

OK, you're really showing your blatant ignorance for a so-called car dude! I never paid much attention to the NC till I saw a well-prepped one. I can hang w/ if not beat most 1st/2nd gen Miatas at Harris Hill Road. I saw a white one not only pass me like I was standing still, but lap me in a 20 minute session. He hangs w/ Elises/Exiges, and says he's 0.2 secs. faster than the top Cayman lap time.

Did the '90 Miata have any of the following?
- 166 hp - much more power and tq.
- 6 sp. tranny
- keyless entry/ignition w/ integrated alarm
- leather, heated seats w/ adj. height
- 200W Bose stereo (I generally hate Bose, but this one sounds pretty good)
- 5 link rear suspension
- greater mass centralization
- HID headlights + foglights
- side impact airbags
- enough space to be comfy on a long drive
- stability control
- one handed top raising/lowering w/ no need for a tonneau cover
- 17" wheels w/ sticky rubber
- tilt steering
- much, much stiffer chassis

Even w/ all that stuff, it's still by far the lightest sports car on the market that isn't a Lotus.

I have a 2nd gen, and trust me, I didn't buy it just b/c I had money laying around that I didn't know what to do w/!

[Homeslice]

The 1990 miata was much smaller, had almost no creature comforts, was noisy on the highway, and the interior was rather dime-store. Plus the rear window wasn't glass, and it had much more snap-oversteer. Paint sucked and the doors felt kinda like a tin can. With that being said it was probably the funnest car I've ever driven.

There is no comparison to today's Miata. They are 2 full generations apart. Doubt if they even share any parts except maybe wheel bearings and wiper motors.

[pauldun170]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

The 1990 miata was much smaller, had almost no creature comforts, was noisy on the highway, and the interior was rather dime-store. Plus the rear window wasn't glass, and it had much more snap-oversteer. Paint sucked and the doors felt kinda like a tin can. With that being said it was probably the funnest car I've ever driven.

There is no comparison to today's Miata. They are 2 full generations apart. Doubt if they even share any parts except maybe wheel bearings and wiper motors.

In it's defence, a majority of cars from 1990 had dime store interiors and chitty paint.

Totally agree on fun to drive. Once you get over the fact that EVERYBODY is leaving you from a stop light (when driving that first year Miata now in 2009) and they are not even trying...
Holy crap is it fun to drive.

However...in a 1990 Corvette.
Driven in 2009...
Once you get past the "It's got some balls" when leaving that same stop light. It just turns into a series of "damn", "this is just bad".
You gotta constantly goose the motor to keep your mind off the little crappy things and when your done you kinda write it off as "it's just old...I really want a new one!!!"

In the Miata, just when you start getting annoyed at those fucking doorhandles you gotta hold open to lock the door and the motor, the motor that under 4K is just, it just takes a long time to get there but when it does....."Hey wonder what a new set a shocks will do for the handl......hey another corner.....
FUCK YOU MINIVAN I'll CATCH YOU IN THE TWISTIES!!......"
In other words....fuck refinement and decent radios and plastic that holds up in bad weather with the top down...It's just a fun car to drive.

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by pauldun170

...and you damn well know that a 1990 Miata is night and day from a new one.

But its not...looks almost identical..minus the pop lights!

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by pauldun170

1990 Corvette: 31.9K base price
0-60 mph in 5.7 - 14.3 1/4
2009 Corvette:48.5K base price
0-60 mph in 4.1

1.6 second improvement time worth 16.6K

1990 Mazda Miata:13.8K base price
9.4 0-60 16.9 1/4
2009 Miata:22.7K base price
0-60 mph in 7.5 seconds

1.9 second improvement time worth 8.9K

My truck will do 0-60 in 7.5 seconds. lol

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by Chris S

OK, you're really showing your blatant ignorance for a so-called car dude! I never paid much attention to the NC till I saw a well-prepped one. I can hang w/ if not beat most 1st/2nd gen Miatas at Harris Hill Road. I saw a white one not only pass me like I was standing still, but lap me in a 20 minute session. He hangs w/ Elises/Exiges, and says he's 0.2 secs. faster than the top Cayman lap time.

Did the '90 Miata have any of the following?
- 166 hp - much more power and tq.
- 6 sp. tranny
- keyless entry/ignition w/ integrated alarm
- leather, heated seats w/ adj. height
- 200W Bose stereo (I generally hate Bose, but this one sounds pretty good)
- 5 link rear suspension
- greater mass centralization
- HID headlights + foglights
- side impact airbags
- enough space to be comfy on a long drive
- stability control
- one handed top raising/lowering w/ no need for a tonneau cover
- 17" wheels w/ sticky rubber
- tilt steering
- much, much stiffer chassis

Even w/ all that stuff, it's still by far the lightest sports car on the market that isn't a Lotus.

I have a 2nd gen, and trust me, I didn't buy it just b/c I had money laying around that I didn't know what to do w/!

I am speaking of the body design, not Stability control, which is mandated for any vehicle past 2007. I'm betting it has a tire pressure monitor system too, right? lol

And my car knowlegde is knowing how shit operates, not memorizing book spec. knowledge and whether the dashboard is "tight" or not.

[goof2]

Originally Posted by Triple

You could have built a much faster Miata for less than you spent on this new one.

For example: http://home.comcast.net/~npartist/

For those who think V8 swaps are a detriment to handling, be sure to check out his videos section.

I really would like to do the new 480 hp LS3 in a Miata. It would be OK here (no emissions), but if I had to move I wouldn't be able to pass emissions in most states. I would rather have a $2k track only bike than a $20k+ track only car.