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Old 05-14-2009, 11:44 PM   #1
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Do you have any idea how much time HD now puts into R&D? Its insane... take a hd factory tour. Then feel free to try the same with your rice...
Are you suggesting we compare the R&D of Harley, who haven't been innovative in any way since long before I was born, to the Japanese companies who live on the bleeding edge of motorcycle development?

When does that Harley GP bike come out again?

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Quit being a little girl and get on the gas.
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Old 05-15-2009, 12:20 AM   #2
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Harley Researches their target demographic and Designs new t-shirts and bandanas.
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Old 05-15-2009, 10:06 PM   #3
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Hey I am no mechanic but I will tell you this... you see a great deal more when you start taking parts off at 3 feet in the air on the lift.

And ebbs... I'll put my 280k 1991 Pontiac 6000 LE up to that idea that american cars aren't realiable. Never did anything to the motor or trans besides new fluids.
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Old 05-15-2009, 11:23 PM   #4
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Hey I am no mechanic but I will tell you this... you see a great deal more when you start taking parts off at 3 feet in the air on the lift.

And ebbs... I'll put my 280k 1991 Pontiac 6000 LE up to that idea that american cars aren't realiable. Never did anything to the motor or trans besides new fluids.
ok... that's one... and I'm sure we could find 100 people with experiences like yours... but 1000 next to the 20000+ you'll find with Toyota or Honda...

there's a reason why domestic's have the rep they do. sure... they may be working to get rid of that... still along way to go.... sorry
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Old 05-15-2009, 11:24 PM   #5
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Notice I still have not said anything bad about say Honda realiability.
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I love honda I have had 2 go over 260,000 when I sold them still running.

BUT I've had a 91 s-10 that had 248,000 when I sold it.(original)
A 95 Isuzu Rodeo with 268,000 when I sold it(only replaced starter)
My mustang had 243,000 on it as well (but it was torn apart from racing and adding parts on every weekend lol so guess it does not count)

I have a 2000 Jetta with 268,000 miles on it right now
My 04 Ram has 103,000 miles no problems thus far
02 Nissan Altima at 154,000 only had to rebuild alternator.
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Old 05-15-2009, 11:38 PM   #7
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Notice I still have not said anything bad about say Honda realiability.
and I wasn't saying you were... I was just saying that domestics aren't on par with the imports in reliability... and there's still quite a gap imo... but I do think the imports are getting worse... dunno if domestics are getting better though
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Trip, if you do end up picking up a GS and it's used, ask if the Final Drive has been replaced - they have been known to have issues from what I've heard and fail at the most in-opportune times...
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Old 05-16-2009, 11:26 AM   #9
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and I wasn't saying you were... I was just saying that domestics aren't on par with the imports in reliability... and there's still quite a gap imo... but I do think the imports are getting worse... dunno if domestics are getting better though
I hear ya. Imports aren't getting worse but domestic has made big leaps in that dept over the past years. I'm saying the gap is closing in real quick!
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Old 05-17-2009, 01:14 AM   #10
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and I wasn't saying you were... I was just saying that domestics aren't on par with the imports in reliability... and there's still quite a gap imo... but I do think the imports are getting worse... dunno if domestics are getting better though
My brother bought a brand new 2005 Honda Accord EX with a V-6 Auto. The transmission failed at 70k as with many many other Honda automatics. Honda does NOT have reliable automatics.

Toyota had a lawsuit against them which claimed thier Sienna engines built up sludge prematurely (all under 40k). They also had engines fail due to this as well.

I've owned many many GM makes and not one left me stranded vs. a Honda that would not start.

Me thinks you have -0- data other than hear say to back up ur claims. Typical of people believing that anything from over the pond must be better.
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