How would you go about laying your bike down?

askmrjesus · 11-10-2009, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Tmall

Your scenario is irrelevant..

You're trying to comparing the rolling friction of the wheels, to the sliding friction of your skin to the sliding friction of rubber.

Obviously if you have no brakes, you want to be as far away from the heavy thing on two rollers with bearings to cut the friction.

In your scenario, you're fucked either way.

But, ultimatlely I would likely downshift to use engine braking to slow down as much as I could. Maybe even lock up the rear by downshifting to first.

Ok, so now you're heading over the cliff at Mach 5, instead of Mach 10.

Let me break this down further. Over the side of the cliff, is a 1000 foot drop, into a pool of sharks with laser beams. Do you "hope" you stop in time, or do you lowside into the guard rail?

Yes, you're fucked either way. The question is: How fucked?

JC

Tmall · 11-10-2009, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by askmrjesus

Ok, so now you're heading over the cliff at Mach 5, instead of Mach 10.

Let me break this down further. Over the side of the cliff, is a 1000 foot drop, into a pool of sharks with laser beams. Do you "hope" you stop in time, or do you lowside into the guard rail?

Yes, you're fucked either way. The question is: How fucked?

JC

I'll play..

you come to a field of razor blades at mach 15, you think laying down a motorcycle is a good option because you used to do it on your antiquated drum braked garbage 20 years ago, do you hop off or hit the brakes?

101lifts2 · 01-15-2010, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by askmrjesus

Ok, so now you're heading over the cliff at Mach 5, instead of Mach 10.

Let me break this down further. Over the side of the cliff, is a 1000 foot drop, into a pool of sharks with laser beams. Do you "hope" you stop in time, or do you lowside into the guard rail?

Yes, you're fucked either way. The question is: How fucked?

JC

In most cases you will still fly over the bike if you lay it down. I've seen it happen 3 or 4 times unless you get wedged under the bike. But then, the guardrail may slice you up (I've seen that too).

askmrjesus · 01-15-2010, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 101lifts2

In most cases you will still fly over the bike if you lay it down. I've seen it happen 3 or 4 times unless you get wedged under the bike. But then, the guardrail may slice you up (I've seen that too).

Son a bitch! Somebody has been tampering with the 25 years of racing I've been watching on TV, when low slides result in not "flying over the bike". What's really spooky, is that 99.9% of the low sides I saw in person, also didn't result in this miraculous flying ability. Weird...

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Originally Posted by 101lifts2

I don't agree at all. All this "it pulled out in front of me" is simply a result of not looking at what is on the side of the road.

Have you been licking toads?

Do the phrases "Blind Corner", "Blind Hill", and "Blind Driveway" ring any bells? Do you know what the word "Blind" means, right?

For someone who rides Angeles Crest, (my old stomping grounds) you must ride awfully slow if you can see what's coming behind all those big ass rocks.

JC

101lifts2 · 01-15-2010, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by askmrjesus

Son a bitch! Somebody has been tampering with the 25 years of racing I've been watching on TV, when low slides result in not "flying over the bike". What's really spooky, is that 99.9% of the low sides I saw in person, also didn't result in this miraculous flying ability. Weird...

You were saying to run the bike up against the guardrail. Racers don't have guard rails to hit.

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....Have you been licking toads?

Do the phrases "Blind Corner", "Blind Hill", and "Blind Driveway" ring any bells? Do you know what the word "Blind" means, right?

For someone who rides Angeles Crest, (my old stomping grounds) you must ride awfully slow if you can see what's coming behind all those big ass rocks.

JC

I ride Ortega..not ACH. If you are flying around blind corners and a car is right there in your lane then you are gonna hit it. You can't overcome physics. It takes time to serve, but in no way would I lay it down if this occured. This IS what we are talking about.

askmrjesus · 01-15-2010, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 101lifts2

You were saying to run the bike up against the guardrail. Racers don't have guard rails to hit.

Tell that to the guys who race Macau.

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Originally Posted by 101lifts2

I ride Ortega..not ACH.

Been there, done that. The section right before you get to Lake Elisinore kicks ass. Tight as hell. Most of it blind.

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Originally Posted by 101lifts2

If you are flying around blind corners and a car is right there in your lane then you are gonna hit it. You can't overcome physics. It takes time to serve, but in no way would I lay it down if this occured. This IS what we are talking about.

Who the fuck is we?

You just said it only takes 3 feet to swerve. So which is it? If you hit something it's your fault for not seeing it, or it's impossible to not hit things you can't see?

You a funny man.

JC

OneSickPsycho · 01-16-2010, 09:16 AM

I wouldn't try to lay it down regardless of the circumstances... cliff scenario, I'd hammer the brakes and perhaps jump off, but I still wouldnt try to lay the bike down...

I would say laying the bike down would be pretty easy if one were trying... rear brake like a champ and goose the bar, it'll go down... Why anyone would every want to do that is beyond me, but whatever... Stupid is as stupid does.

dReWpY · 01-17-2010, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho

I wouldn't try to lay it down regardless of the circumstances... cliff scenario, I'd hammer the brakes and perhaps jump off, but I still wouldnt try to lay the bike down...

I would say laying the bike down would be pretty easy if one were trying... rear brake like a champ and goose the bar, it'll go down... Why anyone would every want to do that is beyond me, but whatever... Stupid is as stupid does.

What about the tractor in the road, or the sack of decoys at highway speeds

101lifts2 · 01-16-2010, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by askmrjesus

.....You just said it only takes 3 feet to swerve. So which is it? If you hit something it's your fault for not seeing it, or it's impossible to not hit things you can't see?

You a funny man.

JC

Swerve of course, but if you go around a corner and for some odd reason a car or another bike is right in your lane...then BAM...you might end up a hood ornament or if you have time to swerve then that option should be first.

101lifts2 · 01-16-2010, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by askmrjesus

....Been there, done that. The section right before you get to Lake Elisinore kicks ass. Tight as hell. Most of it blind....

That section is pretty much all we ride on Sunday. The Lookout to the bottom of the mountain. Pretty much our little free track away from home.

01-16-2010, 09:16 AM	#7
OneSickPsycho Ride Like an Asshole Join Date: Feb 2008 Moto: nothing... Posts: 11,254	I wouldn't try to lay it down regardless of the circumstances... cliff scenario, I'd hammer the brakes and perhaps jump off, but I still wouldnt try to lay the bike down... I would say laying the bike down would be pretty easy if one were trying... rear brake like a champ and goose the bar, it'll go down... Why anyone would every want to do that is beyond me, but whatever... Stupid is as stupid does.