techlusion vs bazzaz vs powercommander vs ecu flash????

[Dnyce]

Originally Posted by Amber Lamps

You might be thinking of this...



What he really needs is this...

http://www.exoticsportbike.com/yoshimura_ems.htm

or this...looks a little banged up though...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SUZUK...s#ht_512wt_939

The old units didn't hook up just before the injectors but between the ECU and the fuel management system. It will also adjust the timing of your bike. This one looks a little rough though....

thats what i found for $300 new, at the same site as you lol-im not too sure on the banged up one, i found a pcii brand new for a few dollars more... but i like the features of the yosh box, seems to have the same tuneability as a newer pc.

Originally Posted by OTB

If you want fuel and timing flexibility, get the PC. Most of the bikes that we custom dyno/map (5-10/wk) are waayyy off the correct ratio, downloaded "custom" maps and all. Bazazz are ok, and the high-end will get you TC, but no timing adjustment (why?), whereas the PC has fewer bells and whistles, but is easier to tune, has timing, and with a careful tuner, can get almost ideal fuel/air across the board.

And a decent map for every gear/throttle position takes about 3 hrs, not 1...if they're doing it in an hour, they're either only doing top gear, or they're only doing the top third of the throttle positions.

We remap 2-3 bikes/week done poorly by other shops.

JMHO

definitely good to know, and thats the type of tune id want.

also-i contacted a guy that does ecu flashing thru ebay, turns out hes pretty local, said if i let them use my bike and keep the dyno rights or whatever, they would do it for me(i think for free, im working that out now. . apparently they havent done a 2000 gsxr 750 before.

but these are my for sure options, so what do u think? banged up yosh for about 200 shipped, new pcii for 200 shipped, or new yosh for $300? cheapest pcii and above was in $300 range as well, and the way i see it, the yosh box adjusts timing but the pciii doesnt unless u get some add ons...

[OTB]

Originally Posted by Dnyce

thats what i found for $300 new, at the same site as you lol-im not too sure on the banged up one, i found a pcii brand new for a few dollars more... but i like the features of the yosh box, seems to have the same tuneability as a newer pc.



definitely good to know, and thats the type of tune id want.

also-i contacted a guy that does ecu flashing thru ebay, turns out hes pretty local, said if i let them use my bike and keep the dyno rights or whatever, they would do it for me(i think for free, im working that out now. . apparently they havent done a 2000 gsxr 750 before.

but these are my for sure options, so what do u think? banged up yosh for about 200 shipped, new pcii for 200 shipped, or new yosh for $300? cheapest pcii and above was in $300 range as well, and the way i see it, the yosh box adjusts timing but the pciii doesnt unless u get some add ons...

If you can get the ecu map and flash done for free, that would be good. Make certain they give you a copy for the unlikely circumstance of a bad ecu down the road.

[Dnyce]

i have the right ports on my laptop, ive played around with a pcii on a busa a few times. ill probably get the pcii.

im really hoping for the free ecu flash, and ill make sure to get a copy, but im still in talks with the guy, not sure how its gonna work out, if at all. but that would be my first choice cuz its free and its a complete tune. heres hoping

thanks for the input ev1

[nhgunnut]

Originally Posted by Dnyce

i have the right ports on my laptop, ive played around with a pcii on a busa a few times. ill probably get the pcii.

im really hoping for the free ecu flash, and ill make sure to get a copy, but im still in talks with the guy, not sure how its gonna work out, if at all. but that would be my first choice cuz its free and its a complete tune. heres hoping

thanks for the input ev1

Do let us know how it goes

[Dnyce]

the free flash is out, guy doesnt want to do it. says before 2004, the ecu's were too heavily encrypted, wouldnt be too profitable for him i guess.

but he then said a dyno tune is 200bucks and takes an hour. and i specifically asked for a full tune, not just high gear.

so once my magical box shows up, ill see if i can get it pretty close to right, and then start looking for a good dyno shop.

[Dnyce]

well, update, i threw a offer for $120 at the $200 pc2, and itll be here next week

[OneSickPsycho]

Originally Posted by Dnyce

well, update, i threw a offer for $120 at the $200 pc2, and itll be here next week

Where from? I'd like one for my bike...