Well....It happened

Mr Lefty · 11-05-2008, 03:16 PM

what i'm saying is in the eyes of the insurance company and law it's not ed's fault.

yes... in reality it's always your fault... you could have done something to prevent it. even when blind sided... you could have paid more attention to your surroundings. I'm all about self responsibility... I'm not saying Ed wasn't traveling to fast... I'm saying from the insurance stand point, and law's eyes... he's not at fault.

either way... hope you heal up quick... but look on the bright side... at most your cutting your season a week or two short... and get time to fully heal up and get your bike back to 100%

smileyman · 11-05-2008, 03:35 PM

Yeah i got ya Ebbs...There must have been a ton of debris in that intersection you flipped in...I KID, I KID

Mr Lefty · 11-06-2008, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by smileyman

Yeah i got ya Ebbs...There must have been a ton of debris in that intersection you flipped in...I KID, I KID

actually there was... oil, pieces of metal... and crap everywhere... course that was AFTER

ontwo · 11-06-2008, 05:09 PM

Glad you're ok, dude

marko138 · 11-06-2008, 07:16 PM

I was super pissed when I crashed a few weeks ago. You're right, shit happens. You rebuild and get back on. It sucks...but it's not the end of the world. My shit's back together and you can't even tell it slid across the pavement. I'm sure you'll will be the same in due time.

Gas Man · 11-07-2008, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Rider

Michigan is a no fault state so that part doesn't matter. In any case they measured the skid mark at 83 feet. I don't know what that translates into speed, but with cold tires, rock pebbles being in the road and going down hill, I couldn't have been going that fast. The insurance adjuster said she's seen many wrecked bikes and that mine looks like a 25mph low side. There was a police report so there is no problem with the insurance part. They came out to look at the bike this morning. I don't have hard numbers yet but she was estimating about $4-$5K worth of damage. She said I needed to get my bike into a shop so they can give a full estimate and they will base the repair cost off of what the shop says it will cost. Since it is only cosmetic damage I will do the repairs myself.

The only thing I can say that the truck driver did wrong was that he didn't have a flagger at the top of the hill to stop traffic.

Glad you're ok man. Let me know if I can help at all.

What insurance company? What did they say about the accident itself?

Rider · 11-07-2008, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Gas Man

Glad you're ok man. Let me know if I can help at all.

What insurance company? What did they say about the accident itself?

Thanks Gas,

I will probably need help rebuilding the bike. I'm going to try to do it all myself since it's all cosmetic. Insurance in Liberty Mutual. The police report said I was going 36mph (speed limit was 35)according to the skid marks. No citation will be issued and the case is closed. My medical bills are being taken care of by the drivers of the trucks insurance because in the state of Michigan, the law doesn't consider a motorcycle a motorized vehicle and no mater who is at fault, when a motorcycle is involved in a wreck with a motorized vehicle, the insurance company for that vehicle pays for all medical bills.

I'm healing up quick though.

Rider · 11-05-2008, 03:41 PM

Michigan is a no fault state so that part doesn't matter. In any case they measured the skid mark at 83 feet. I don't know what that translates into speed, but with cold tires, rock pebbles being in the road and going down hill, I couldn't have been going that fast. The insurance adjuster said she's seen many wrecked bikes and that mine looks like a 25mph low side. There was a police report so there is no problem with the insurance part. They came out to look at the bike this morning. I don't have hard numbers yet but she was estimating about $4-$5K worth of damage. She said I needed to get my bike into a shop so they can give a full estimate and they will base the repair cost off of what the shop says it will cost. Since it is only cosmetic damage I will do the repairs myself.

The only thing I can say that the truck driver did wrong was that he didn't have a flagger at the top of the hill to stop traffic.

ceo012384 · 11-05-2008, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ebbs15

in the eyes of the law as far as insurance... but as far as who's at fault for the accident... it's the driver.

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Originally Posted by Ebbs15

what i'm saying is in the eyes of the insurance company and law it's not ed's fault.

... I'm saying from the insurance stand point, and law's eyes... he's not at fault.

No, that's my point. In the eyes of the law and the insurance, it's Ed's fault.

No other vehicle hit him or made a left turn from the right hand lane into him or anything like that.

Crashing a vehicle to avoid conditions/roadblocks/wet/gravel/etc is always legally the operator's fault.

It was a single vehicle accident where he crashed his bike = his fault.

anyways, sorry for the hijack.

R1up0n1 · 11-05-2008, 04:48 PM

ehhh who cares who's fault it is....shit happends that you can't react in time. That's why we have insurance...either way he is covered to heal up and fix his bike back up so he can ride again.
Just glad your ok man.

11-05-2008, 03:35 PM	#2
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11-06-2008, 05:09 PM	#4
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11-05-2008, 03:16 PM	#1
Mr Lefty TWFix Legend Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Denver CO Moto: 01 BMW F650GS Dakar Posts: 15,677	what i'm saying is in the eyes of the insurance company and law it's not ed's fault. yes... in reality it's always your fault... you could have done something to prevent it. even when blind sided... you could have paid more attention to your surroundings. I'm all about self responsibility... I'm not saying Ed wasn't traveling to fast... I'm saying from the insurance stand point, and law's eyes... he's not at fault. either way... hope you heal up quick... but look on the bright side... at most your cutting your season a week or two short... and get time to fully heal up and get your bike back to 100%

11-05-2008, 03:41 PM	#8
Rider Moto GP Star Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 12,156	Michigan is a no fault state so that part doesn't matter. In any case they measured the skid mark at 83 feet. I don't know what that translates into speed, but with cold tires, rock pebbles being in the road and going down hill, I couldn't have been going that fast. The insurance adjuster said she's seen many wrecked bikes and that mine looks like a 25mph low side. There was a police report so there is no problem with the insurance part. They came out to look at the bike this morning. I don't have hard numbers yet but she was estimating about $4-$5K worth of damage. She said I needed to get my bike into a shop so they can give a full estimate and they will base the repair cost off of what the shop says it will cost. Since it is only cosmetic damage I will do the repairs myself. The only thing I can say that the truck driver did wrong was that he didn't have a flagger at the top of the hill to stop traffic.

11-05-2008, 04:48 PM	#10
R1up0n1 Yo Join Date: May 2008 Location: PA Moto: 2009 Yamaha V Star 950 Touring / 1995 Intruder Posts: 163	ehhh who cares who's fault it is....shit happends that you can't react in time. That's why we have insurance...either way he is covered to heal up and fix his bike back up so he can ride again. Just glad your ok man.