Should MotoGP bikes be more restricted like NASCAR?

L8 Braker · 06-08-2011, 11:17 AM

With all the discussion that MotoGP is "boring" or uncompetitive, is there something that can be done to make the races closer at the finish line?...NASCAR has this in place, and no one EVER has a huge lead at the finish line...

So, is that the answer?

L8 Braker · 06-08-2011, 11:19 AM

I vote no, BTW...I'm a "run what you brung" kind of guy...

anthonyk · 06-08-2011, 11:25 AM

No way. Ease up the fuel restrictions, and/or make the tires crappier.

Dave · 06-08-2011, 12:45 PM

Prototype racing is supposed to showcase technology. Restricting that in any way makes it irrelevant

Phenix_Rider · 06-08-2011, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

Prototype racing is supposed to showcase technology. Restricting that in any way makes it irrelevant

Ditto. There are plenty off "stock" classes out there. That's what superbike/supersport and Moto 2 ar efor. What makes GP exciting is seeing the development. I WANT to see a team or a mfg run away with races, because next race or next season it forces someone else to step up and push the state of the art.

"Equal" classes are fine, but if they don't have the slightest resemblence to a commercially available vehicle *ahem* NASCAR *ahem* don't pretend they do.

Dave · 06-08-2011, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Phenix_Rider

Ditto. There are plenty off "stock" classes out there. That's what superbike/supersport and Moto 2 ar efor. What makes GP exciting is seeing the development. I WANT to see a team or a mfg run away with races, because next race or next season it forces someone else to step up and push the statie of the art.

"Equal" classes are fine, but if they don't have the slightest resemblence to a commercially available vehicle *ahem* NASCAR *ahem* don't pretend they do.

Exactly, NASCAR rules need to be rolled back to their homogolation racing days. Be better for everyone

smileyman · 06-08-2011, 03:29 PM

Ahhhh hells no!

KSGregman · 06-08-2011, 03:51 PM

What kills MotoGP, IMHO, is "satellite" team racing. It's stupid to send two Ducatis and 3 or four Hondas and a couple of Yamahas out there on CLEARLY inferior bikes (often with engines and frames that are a season or two old) and then call it "racing."

It's NOT a competition if it's rigged so that only 3 or 4 bikes have a legimate chance to win and the other riders are just out there to "fill out" (though it's embarrassing to say that for MotoGP with only 17 riders when everyone is healthy) the grid.

Honda and Ducati and Yamaha should send everyone out on "factory" bikes.....no glaring technology gaps within the same brand.....you ride for Yamaha, you get the best Yamaha prototype available....same as Honda and Ducati....best rider wins. I honestly don't know how they talk kids into leaving Moto2 or WSB to go ride a bike that they KNOW has NO chance to win in MotoGP.

I think that ridding the field of all the electronic aids would be a HUGE step in the right direction too. What seperates the winners from the losers? The size of their balls and their skill on 2 wheels....not how good their ECU engineer in Japan is.

smileyman · 06-08-2011, 04:05 PM

Tony Elias feels your pain...

Particle Man · 06-08-2011, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by L8 Braker

I vote no, BTW...I'm a "run what you brung" kind of guy...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave

Prototype racing is supposed to showcase technology. Restricting that in any way makes it irrelevant

Both of these.

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06-08-2011, 11:17 AM	#1
L8 Braker Swollen Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 558	Should MotoGP bikes be more restricted like NASCAR? With all the discussion that MotoGP is "boring" or uncompetitive, is there something that can be done to make the races closer at the finish line?...NASCAR has this in place, and no one EVER has a huge lead at the finish line... So, is that the answer?

06-08-2011, 03:29 PM	#7
smileyman White Trash Hero Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NW Arkansas Moto: Buell 1125R Porco Rosso Edition Posts: 4,895	Ahhhh hells no! __________________ Arkriders.com To be the best you must first be willing to risk the worst!

06-08-2011, 03:51 PM	#8
KSGregman Get Fit...or Get OUT Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: KS Moto: 07 M109-R Posts: 1,993	What kills MotoGP, IMHO, is "satellite" team racing. It's stupid to send two Ducatis and 3 or four Hondas and a couple of Yamahas out there on CLEARLY inferior bikes (often with engines and frames that are a season or two old) and then call it "racing." It's NOT a competition if it's rigged so that only 3 or 4 bikes have a legimate chance to win and the other riders are just out there to "fill out" (though it's embarrassing to say that for MotoGP with only 17 riders when everyone is healthy) the grid. Honda and Ducati and Yamaha should send everyone out on "factory" bikes.....no glaring technology gaps within the same brand.....you ride for Yamaha, you get the best Yamaha prototype available....same as Honda and Ducati....best rider wins. I honestly don't know how they talk kids into leaving Moto2 or WSB to go ride a bike that they KNOW has NO chance to win in MotoGP. I think that ridding the field of all the electronic aids would be a HUGE step in the right direction too. What seperates the winners from the losers? The size of their balls and their skill on 2 wheels....not how good their ECU engineer in Japan is. Last edited by KSGregman; 06-08-2011 at 04:04 PM..

06-08-2011, 04:05 PM	#9
smileyman White Trash Hero Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NW Arkansas Moto: Buell 1125R Porco Rosso Edition Posts: 4,895	Tony Elias feels your pain... __________________ Arkriders.com To be the best you must first be willing to risk the worst!

06-08-2011, 11:19 AM	#2
L8 Braker Swollen Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 558	I vote no, BTW...I'm a "run what you brung" kind of guy...

06-08-2011, 11:25 AM	#3
anthonyk WERA White Plate Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Austin, TX Moto: '01 Aprilia Falco Posts: 1,041	No way. Ease up the fuel restrictions, and/or make the tires crappier.

06-08-2011, 12:45 PM	#4
Dave Chaotic Neutral Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Cherry Hill NJ Moto: GV1200 Madura, Hawk gt Posts: 13,992	Prototype racing is supposed to showcase technology. Restricting that in any way makes it irrelevant