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Old 07-07-2010, 11:31 AM   #1
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Yes; regulated capitalism and good corporate citizenship. People shouldn't have to fight it out with their insurance companies, in cases where they clearly should be ponying up. As with this case, people are generally in a very bad emotional place when they NEED their insurance coverage. That the insurance company employees choose to make things tough for them, at such times, shows that they are somewhat less than human.
We have regulated capitalism.

While I agree that people should not have to fight with their insurance companies to have legitimate bills paid, the company should also be expected (and allowed) to do their due diligence to make sure it was a covered loss. To be honest with you, I find it hard to believe that the insurance company is even involved at this point.

Regarding the companies do not care comments, I believe that those comments were made in regard to the ex's employer not her insurance carrier. I originally said she should get an attorney (I misread and assumed she had been fired). I no longer feel that that is necessary.

They are holding her job for her while she is away. What more should she expect? Should the company continue to pay her for not working?

While this tragic event is more assuredly going to cause a huge financial strain on the family, I'm not sure how that is the fault or responsibility of her employer?
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Old 07-07-2010, 11:32 AM   #2
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Ugh. Where to begin?
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Old 07-07-2010, 11:40 AM   #3
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Ok, here's my thing. If companies don't give a fuck about their employees then they shouldn't be able to pretend they do in order to better control their employees through bullshit propaganda.

For example, the company in question makes their employees wear cards that contain MB's Core Values: Honesty, Openness, Respect, etc. etc. etc....which is all complete bullshit.

Honesty is paramount.
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Old 07-07-2010, 11:48 AM   #4
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Ok, here's my thing. If companies don't give a fuck about their employees then they shouldn't be able to pretend they do in order to better control their employees through bullshit propaganda.

For example, the company in question makes their employees wear cards that contain MB's Core Values: Honesty, Openness, Respect, etc. etc. etc....which is all complete bullshit.

Honesty is paramount.
Based on what I've read, I don't see where they have failed her or their values.

Shed some light, man...
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Old 07-07-2010, 11:56 AM   #5
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Based on what I've read, I don't see where they have failed her or their values.

Shed some light, man...
They're not paying her anymore. Both her kids were near death, in ICU, and despite getting assurances from a team leader, a group leader and an HR rep that she would get paid during her leave, they stopped paying her.

Now, when she calls HR they tell her to call the insurance company as they are no longer involved. I mean, these motherfuckers (Human Resources) have an entire area of the building off to themselves, they have 7 reps...yet they can't help you deal with THEIR insurance company.

Everytime she calls the insurance company they make her tell the story over again to a new rep, describe the children's injuries, tell them what she does all day, etc. etc. So the company that she has worked at for over 10 years is forcing her to deal with this all on her own instead of just fucking paying her. All they have to do is cut a check, its that simple, they can do it right out of the office...
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Old 07-07-2010, 12:08 PM   #6
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They're not paying her anymore. Both her kids were near death, in ICU, and despite getting assurances from a team leader, a group leader and an HR rep that she would get paid during her leave, they stopped paying her.

Now, when she calls HR they tell her to call the insurance company as they are no longer involved. I mean, these motherfuckers (Human Resources) have an entire area of the building off to themselves, they have 7 reps...yet they can't help you deal with THEIR insurance company.

Everytime she calls the insurance company they make her tell the story over again to a new rep, describe the children's injuries, tell them what she does all day, etc. etc. So the company that she has worked at for over 10 years is forcing her to deal with this all on her own instead of just fucking paying her. All they have to do is cut a check, its that simple, they can do it right out of the office...
That totally sucks and I can understand your frustration.

It really sucks that a few bosses gave her what seems to be inaccurate information.

She should be getting paid out of her STDI plan or whatever she has.

However, you know as well as I do that big companies have procedures to follow and HR can't just cut a check because someone is in a tight spot.
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Even when they get good wages, good benefits, there will be those running around frothing at the mouth yelling, "Company doesn't care."

I say that if you don't think that your company give a rat's ass about you and you don't like it, then get another job with a different company.
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Even when they get good wages, good benefits, there will be those running around frothing at the mouth yelling, "Company doesn't care."

I say that if you don't think that your company give a rat's ass about you and you don't like it, then get another job with a different company.
It's a little late to do that when you've been depending on them for something, and they screw you.
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They are holding her job for her while she is away. What more should she expect? Should the company continue to pay her for not working?
Unless they have a benefits plan in place, no.



If she does have benefits, and the insurance is dicking her around, then the company should step in, and have HR deal with it. It is their job to ensure that the employees are taken care of.
An HR manager will have a lot more pull than a regular employee when dealing with an Inusrance company.
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Unless they have a benefits plan in place, no.



If she does have benefits, and the insurance is dicking her around, then the company should step in, and have HR deal with it. It is their job to ensure that the employees are taken care of.
An HR manager will have a lot more pull than a regular employee when dealing with an Inusrance company.
This.

If this doesn't work - hire an attorney to light the fire.
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